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Old 11-30-2008, 09:06 PM
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I didn't mind the blood, since they're meant to be aliens after all. And as for canon issues... we can just say that their pink blood was a short-term side effect of the Praxis radiation.

The second and third films in The Lord of the Rings were both PG-13, and they had everything from suicide bombings, to limb hacking, to mass civilian casualties and death by lava. That's perhaps a good idea of what can be expected from a PG-13, at least as far as violence is concerned.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:14 AM
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In Wrath of Kahn spock bled red blood, Isn't he a green blooded Vulcan or was that just bones giving him a hard time. Spock's blood could have changed from green to red due to the radiation. The moment I saw that I thought, where is the green blood?
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I don't remember any red blood in II. Spock's face was green.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:09 AM
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Spock didn't bleed in Wrath of Khan.

Just more history on the ratings. When Star Wars was first shown to the ratings board they gave it a G rating. George Lucas thought that was the kiss of death so asked the board what he needed to add to the movie to get a PG rating. They suggested that had the result of the fight in the bar been shown, a cut off hand or arm on the ground maybe, then the movie would move up a notch to PG. So, he added that shot of the bleeding severed arm to that movie and made "cutting off a hand" almost a cliche by including it in pretty much every Star Wars movie just to make sure the dreaded "G" was never considered again.

PG-13 came about at the suggestion of Steven Spielberg who argued (quite correctly) that 13 year olds could reasonably be expected to handle stuff that parents were concerned about for their 4 and 5 year olds. He wanted to make Indiana Jones more than a PG movie but felt the next option up "R" would be bad for marketing.
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True, and he 'felt bad' that TEMPLE OF DOOM was scarier for kids than a standard PG film would be. Ironically, this from the guy who directed JAWS!
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:25 AM
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I wish the gutsier Spielberg who had the shark eating anything (even kids) would come back, his need for the happy ending undoes so many of his recent films.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:32 AM
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In his interviews, he seems to have outgrown his '70s penchant for darker stories and more ambiguity in his films. It seems to be a product of being a father (it's amazing how much of CE3K he can no longer identify with on this count, yet it's a masterpiece), and apparently filming SCHINDLER'S LIST took a lot out of him. I don't think he enjoys exploring darker topics anymore, not at this stage in his life.
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Yes, I've read interviews to that effect, especially the CE3K idea of a father leaving his family behind to go looking for answers on his own, but in films like 'Minority Report' and 'War of the Worlds' parts of the 'happy' ending were incongrous with the mood of the films to that point, and it did undermine them a little.

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True, although the original WOTW has an even more blatant happy ending, so it's hard to fault Spielberg on that count.

Agreed, in that MINORITY REPORT and AI are two of my least favorite Spielberg efforts.
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True about WOTW!! I just didn't buy the 'surprise' reappearance at the end (in case anyone here hasn't seen it I don't want to say who it is!).

Minority Report just wasn't as 'wow' as I had thought it would be, it really just became a police procedural with some futuristic elements attached, and AI is visually wonderful but the story is less successful.
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