[Kukalaka]

So, is there anyone here, like me, who:

• Accepts that this is probably going to contradict a lot of existing Star Trek stuff your 52 year-old shut in uncle from Toledo knows all about
• Realizes it's 2008, and a tentpole movie has to not look like it was filmed on a TV set from the 60s
• Accepts that, heaven forbid, the Star Trek bridge is going to be different in every film.
• Is willing to accept a Trek movie taking place in a larger scale? More crew, more realism, more grittyness, more ship, more ROCK OUT WITH YOUR **** OUT POUND FOR POUND MANLY MUSK-SWEAT?!!!!

If so, let's all together say:

"I love Star Trek. I love the stories that have been written. I am also not naive and I realize that this is a Hollywood movie and not some kind of future history written by Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones and Kofi Annan, and that we should hope and appreciate the content and

spirit

Uhura's BAZOOMBASSSS!!!!

over the setting. If it's adventure, teamwork, and friendship, it's Star Trek, regardless of what your shut-in uncle says.

[The Saint]

Toward whom is the "shut in uncle" invective directed?

[Kukalaka]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Toward whom is the "shut in uncle" invective directed?

I think it's unreasonable, in 2008, to look at past Star Trek and shoehorn it around a new plot.

The spirit of Star Trek is one of adventure, friendship, exploration, science, and the like. The setting can change, the "rules" can change, but as long as there is some of that in there, then people like the figurative shut-in uncle from Toledo, who love classic Trek but dismiss a new film on a 2 minute trailer, hold the franchise back. Frankly.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Kukalaka

I think it's unreasonable, in 2008, to look at past Star Trek and shoehorn it around a new plot.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. That does not, however, answer the question I asked you. Why are you labeling people who care about continuity with a denigrating stereotype?

[mmoore]

Originally Posted by The Saint

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. That does not, however, answer the question I asked you. Why are you labeling people who care about continuity with a denigrating stereotype?

Something . . . strangely . . . familiar . . .

"Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because I have a pet halibut?"

[williamLX]

To hell with free speech then.

[number 3]

The needs of the many...outweigh....

....well, almost everything.


See you at the ticket counter.

[number 3]

I'd have ta spell somthing wrong...geezz...hate it when that happens...life goes on.

[WildGunsTomcat]

Originally Posted by The Saint

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. That does not, however, answer the question I asked you. Why are you labeling people who care about continuity with a denigrating stereotype?

Things change Saint. Deal with it or move on already.

Frankly people are getting tired of your negative attitude about everything.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by WildGunsTomcat

Things change Saint. Deal with it or move on already.

Frankly people are getting tired of your negative attitude about everything.

You know, it's funny that I'm supposed to be open-minded about the film, yet the people who want to aim personal attacks at me don't seem the least bit interested in being open-minded about criticism of it.