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Old 11-28-2008, 05:08 PM
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nice idea, but not agreeing on the old is dead standpoint.

I'm just throwin' stuff out there. I'll let the pros make the official calls.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:08 PM
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All I know is that by killing a classic Vette, the character (I don't care about director, writer etc) of Kirk gets a thumbs down on the conventional wisdom scale.

I mean rebel yell and all that, but killing a Vette? Argh!

The kid factor is the only mitigation there for me.
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Hopefully as with so much of todays' movies, maybe it was a CGI Vette.
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The point is not the car, I suspect, but what the car means to Kirk... and to the person who owns it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:50 AM
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Hopefully as with so much of todays' movies, maybe it was a CGI Vette.
I doubt they'd trash a real one, it's probably CGI once it goes over the edge, or it's a replica bodykit.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:52 AM
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Here's a clue: I'm sure the entire quarry is CG, so that would make a car falling into it CG by default. No worries.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:54 AM
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CGI's just so darned photorealistic now with these films, it's hard to tell the difference at times. Which is the point, I know!
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:22 AM
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I think I may have some insight into the 'Vette.

I just realized that in ST-TMP we learned that Kirk had a fondness for antiques. If Kirks father (or Uncle) collected them (one of them obviously did) this could be where it all started. Even the bike could be an antique even though it looks a bit futurisitc. (I remember reading a post grumbling about the motorcycle having wheels).


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The use of a '66 'Vette is significant in that ST-TOS aired in '66. The clip shows the speedometer starting out at 66 mph and accelerates through the mph/years up to about '79 when ST-TMP came out.

Then Abrams completely destroys that prisitne 'Vette by plunging it into the ravine! His way of saying that Star Trek is going to be drastically changed? i.e. the OLD is dead.

If he does, I think he'll live to regret it...
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Assuming the vette is a real antique. Maybe they just have a vette file in the ol' replicator...

Personally, I think the "symbolisim" of the kid driving it over a cliff is overstated. More likely, it's just to establish that Jim Kirk was a problem kid, and needed to find a direction for his life. To me, the "antiques" angle seems much more likely.
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I think I may have some insight into the 'Vette.

I just realized that in ST-TMP we learned that Kirk had a fondness for antiques. If Kirks father (or Uncle) collected them (one of them obviously did) this could be where it all started. Even the bike could be an antique even though it looks a bit futurisitc. (I remember reading a post grumbling about the motorcycle having wheels).


I tried posting this before my account was activated so I'll post it here.


The use of a '66 'Vette is significant in that ST-TOS aired in '66. The clip shows the speedometer starting out at 66 mph and accelerates through the mph/years up to about '79 when ST-TMP came out.

Then Abrams completely destroys that prisitne 'Vette by plunging it into the ravine! His way of saying that Star Trek is going to be drastically changed? i.e. the OLD is dead.
Maybe the writers put that much thought into it, maybe not. But do you know why they don't show the Vette reaching 88 mph?

Because then Kirk would spend the whole movie trying to get back from 1955.
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