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Old 11-21-2008, 07:13 AM
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Default Online Article Examining Star Trek XI

Thought people might find this of interest, a nice look at the pros and cons of the 're-imagining' of big screen Trek and insights into how Trek fared during its previous comebacks.

http://www.reelviews.net/php_reeltho...identifier=520
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:24 AM
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Author's quote:

"At this point, I can say no more. I have not seen the movie."

Enough said.
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quote: "But what happens if the movie, helmed by non-Trekker J.J. Abrams, is so focused on achieving widespread acceptance that it alienates Star Trek's core fans?"

This is the question many of us are asking. Of course it is not only wise, but imperative to wait and see the movie before calling "foul!"
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Absolutely.

Nicholas Meyer wasn't a fan of Star Trek before he took the reins of "The Wrath of Khan" and then he went on to contribute to "The Voyage Home" and came back for "The Undiscovered Country." Arguably three of the most successful--and most loved--Star Trek adventures ever.

Wait for the film to open people. Please.
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On Enterprise and why it died:

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This wasn't Star Trek any more. It was something else.
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To you and the author maybe, but NOT to every Trek fan. I really like ENT. The writing didn't kill ENT. UPN killed ENT. We've had this discussion before. Remember, most of us aren't writers ourselves, so we don't judge each movie and episode thru the same "lens" you do. There are a handfull (maybe more!) of episodes that were just wayyyy out there, and really bad Trek, but overall I have enjoyed each and every incarnation of Trek.
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The writing for season 3 and 4 of ENT was great. Manny Coto was really turning that show around. UPN and Paramount effectively killed that show, I have to agree.
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Agreed, I thought ENT was good an even had a good cast. UPN was always doomed to fail. ENT should have been moved to CBS when that merger went down. Just my opinion. Don't get me wrong I think B&B also partly responsible for killing ENT as well.

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I think they have to take the risk of alienating some of the core fans. Assuming after the facts of ENT demise and Nemesis' poor takings, any new Trek project was going to involve looking at new blood, new ideas and potentially doing a back-to-basics reappraisal, it follows then then no-one could be able to really try and redevelop Trek into a success again without displeasing someone out there. I know some people may scream 'Manny Coto!!!', but then not everyone will have liked him either. It will always be the case someone is left disappointed.
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I was never a really big fan of ENT, but I still watched it because it was Trek. The one thing I've found with every version of Trek since TOS, whether it was TNG, DS9, or VOY, was that it took a couple seasons to hit its stride and start producing really good shows.

I look back at some of the first and second season episodes of TNG and can't believe how lame some of them appear, compared to the last two seasons. DS9 finally hit its stride for me when the Dominion War kicked into high gear over the last two seasons. Same issue, but to a lesser extent, for me and VOY.

I was waiting for ENT to hit its stride and it was finally starting to get interesting after they ended the season long Xindi story (which I really hated!). The stories were slowly but surely getting better.

I mostly blame UPN for dropping the ball by moving the show around and not sticking with it. Some of the blame can probably get dumped on Berman and Braga too, but I can't be too upset with them, given the many years of good Trek they gave us before this. Maybe they were just getting burned out?

I don't think ENT was Trek at its best, but it gets dumped on too much.
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