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Old 11-13-2008, 09:04 PM
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Also I remember reading somewhere that the closest 'sun-like' star is about 40 lyrs out and there aren't that many of them within a hundred and fifty lyrs, so if we're talking about life that may be similar to us or come from a similar world, it makes sense.

But they could have bases, who knows! Starbases!
They may already have their own Star Fleet and ask us to join... whoops forgot we don't have warp technology... and sadly probably never will...
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:08 PM
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They may already have their own Star Fleet and ask us to join... whoops forgot we don't have warp technology... and sadly probably never will...
Another unknown in the equation, is relativity theory the final wisdom or are there ways to shorten the interstellar distances or to circumvent time dilation, such that those lonely island might be in fact a ltitle closer?
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:10 PM
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I wouldn't think we'd have it anytime soon. If we could create something powerful enough to warp space, it'd probably make a really great bomb as well and we'd probably have blown ourselves to kingdom come before we got anywhere near harnessing the amounts of power it would take to warp space.

But that's just the pessimist in me.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:20 PM
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Hawking has a great chapter on wormholes in The Universe in a Nutshell. I could see that happening, even in my lifetime. I'll probably be collecting Social Security by then, though...
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I wouldn't think we'd have it anytime soon. If we could create something powerful enough to warp space, it'd probably make a really great bomb as well and we'd probably have blown ourselves to kingdom come before we got anywhere near harnessing the amounts of power it would take to warp space.

But that's just the pessimist in me.
Agreed. If one country developed a warp engine there would be a war soon after. It would be Sputnik all over again. With all the other countries now aiming for the moon things can only get worse before they get better.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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I am quite optimistic about self-annihilation. Common problems like financial order and global heating lead to more cooperation, not necessarily a Star Trek like United Earth, but at least we go the first few steps to cope with our common problems.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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Hopefully it won't be like Star Trek and take a 3rd world war with millions dead to make it happen but that was something about Trek that seemed realistic.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:29 PM
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I wouldn't think we'd have it anytime soon. If we could create something powerful enough to warp space, it'd probably make a really great bomb as well and we'd probably have blown ourselves to kingdom come before we got anywhere near harnessing the amounts of power it would take to warp space.

But that's just the pessimist in me.
Who knows what will be discovered once the Large Hadron Collider begins being used for experiments.
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We'll be able to create extremely small amounts of anti-matter with it, which is pretty cool. Also study microscopic blackholes. Very cool machine, too bad it's having problems.
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Hopefully it won't be like Star Trek and take a 3rd world war with millions dead to make it happen but that was something about Trek that seemed realistic.
Hard to predict, depends on how we deal with the three large problems of this century (so far and IMO), overpopulation and food scarcity (two sides of one coin), global warming and financial order (OK, this might be just a medium run problem).
But I think violent conflicts will remain local.
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