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Old 09-24-2008, 02:29 AM
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According to Einstein faster then light travel is not possible. However recent physics have proven that it is if you create a "warp bubble" around a object of mass to deform space/time but the power required to do so is so many numbers I couldn't fit them in this post.

So here's my Question.

1.Do you believe it's possible?

2. If yes then how many years do you think it would take before the first prototype?

3. And in your opinion what kind of power source do you believe it would take.
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Anything is possible. But if it can be doen it's a couple of hundred years off yet.
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It's a theoretical possibility, much the same as some time travel theories, but regarding it's actuall development, warp drive would be a long, long, long way off (if ever). I think, anyway.
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I would agree.
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I think "warp drive" could be much closer than we think. The power source still needs to be created, but I think mankind is capable of many things in short periods of time. Maybe in my grandchildren's lifetime? Great-grandchildren's lifetime? (I don't have kids yet) How long did it take mankind to go from Wright brother's type airplanes to walking on the moon? I know we haven't made giant leaps in technological advancement in that area since the 60's, but when we do they come fast!

I hate to sound like the average Trekkie, but I think antimatter will someday be a huge powersource for mankind. I think TREK got many things right when it comes to our future technological achievments.

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According to Einstein faster then light travel is not possible. However recent physics have proven that it is if you create a "warp bubble" around a object of mass to deform space/time but the power required to do so is so many numbers I couldn't fit them in this post.
"Proven" is way too strong of a word. It's considered a valid solution to the problem posed by Einstein's theory, but it's only a mathematical abstraction. And it's not just a matter of power. It also relies on the existence of what they call exotic matter, the existence of which is only hypothetical at best. Last I heard there isn't even a hypothetical way to obtain and/or manipulate exotic matter to begin with. Over the years, numerous other papers have been published that either help, debunk, or raise more questions. In the end, it's all still academic thus far.

There are other ideas for alternatives should the matter needed to create the space curvature not be available. But you'd end up with more of a Babylon 5 situation with jump gates.
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I think it is possible, but it would take too much energy... an amount of energy we will never be able to use.
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I'm actually willing to be a little bit more flexible on the power issue, but not by much. Some of the followup publications have proposed reducing the power requirement by adjusting the shape of the actual bubble. But even then, the amount of energy to move a single atom is just way more than we can possibly hope to obtain, even with antimatter and a 100% efficient system. We'd need the energy equivalent of almost 3 solar masses (according to a 1999 paper by Van Den Broeck). 1 solar mass being 332,950 times the mass of the Earth.

I heard of a modified version of Van Den Broeck's idea that has reduced the negative energy mass needed to a few milligrams, but I haven't found much detail on that.
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By the time we find a way to curve space in a way that will allow us to travel FTL, we will have evolved into something other than human.

The "power requirements" may be a dead end argument. Since we have abolutely no way of knowing how such a drive would work, no one has any idea of what it would take to power it. It could need more energy than the universe has produced in it's lifetime... or it might just need a couple of "AA" batteries... We just don't know.

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By the time we find a way to curve space in a way that will allow us to travel FTL, we will have evolved into something other than human.

The "power requirements" may be a dead end argument. Since we have abolutely no way of knowing how such a drive would work, no one has any idea of what it would take to power it. It could need more energy than the universe has produced in it's lifetime... or it might just need a couple of "AA" batteries... We just don't know.

Step one: study the fabric of the universe, and learn how to manipulate it.
Well, I for one, am buying a used TARDIS....
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