The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum > Star Trek > Star Trek XI: The Movie > What is the ceiling for this film?
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 09-07-2008, 12:28 AM
Leathart's Avatar
Leathart Leathart is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: U.S.S. Seattle
Posts: 178
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrek79 View Post
Look,i am not saying starwars or lotr are bad films,they just dont deserve oscars,perhaps in sfx area,as i said there are directors out there like Zil dasen,or bergman,far better than spielberg or lucas or cameron.As for star trek i am too in deeply love with it,soooo..... i want an oscar
Believe me, I'm not trying to start a pointless argument, but there is no Zil Dasen on IMDB...at all. And as far as Bergman, I assume you mean Ingmar? There are not many people out there of his caliber. Just one. And you just named him. That doesn't take anything away from Spielberg. Like being the best director of modern times....
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-07-2008, 12:46 AM
jtrek79's Avatar
jtrek79 jtrek79 is offline
Vice Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Athens,Greece
Posts: 3,330
Default

Leathart,there is no argument,just a conversation between friends,people have different opinions,i greatly respect that,i am not saying spielberg is bad,his old movies like e.t,indiana jones,shidler's list were great,but honestly hollywood's run out of ideas and he cant save it anymore.Yes i mean ingmar,like him?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-07-2008, 01:26 AM
kevin's Avatar
kevin kevin is offline
Federation Councillor
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: East Kilbride, Glasgow, UK
Posts: 21,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vuedoc View Post
For a Best Picture Oscar, you have to look both at the substance of the film and its execution. That's why Star Wars was nominated because Lucas gave us something that was never shown before and he did a damn good job of it. Even so, it lost out to a movie that granted was awesome, but didn't really present anything fresh and new- but it was a more "traditional" film. Today, there's very little that is "new" in special effects so that alone will keep sci-fi films out of the Best Pic running. I just don't think that sci-fi today is judged by The Academy as the story on its own merit.
True, the Academy will more often than not go the 'traditional' route and plump for something safe but not usually exciting. Sometimes that works, sometimes not. But there's also very little 'new' in biopics or true life stories. They all usually work in a certain way and that doesn't stop the Academy lovong them!
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-07-2008, 12:54 PM
Leathart's Avatar
Leathart Leathart is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: U.S.S. Seattle
Posts: 178
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrek79 View Post
Leathart,there is no argument,just a conversation between friends,people have different opinions,i greatly respect that,i am not saying spielberg is bad,his old movies like e.t,indiana jones,shidler's list were great,but honestly hollywood's run out of ideas and he cant save it anymore.Yes i mean ingmar,like him?
I would answer that question with a resounding yes my friend...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-07-2008, 01:12 PM
The Saint's Avatar
The Saint The Saint is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,575
Default

I would have pulled for the original Terminator to receive an award had I not learned of Cameron's, ahem, "unauthorized adaptation" of two Harlan Ellison stories for the plot.

(For the curious but not-yet-informed, they are "Demon With A Glass Hand" and "For I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream."
__________________
"Now I did a job -- and got nothin' but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character, so let me make this abundantly clear: I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-07-2008, 03:06 PM
Leathart's Avatar
Leathart Leathart is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: U.S.S. Seattle
Posts: 178
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
I would have pulled for the original Terminator to receive an award had I not learned of Cameron's, ahem, "unauthorized adaptation" of two Harlan Ellison stories for the plot.

(For the curious but not-yet-informed, they are "Demon With A Glass Hand" and "For I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream."
Ah, good old Harlan. The man who credits himself with writing both The Bible and The Qur'an.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-07-2008, 07:52 PM
vuedoc's Avatar
vuedoc vuedoc is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,931
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
I would have pulled for the original Terminator to receive an award had I not learned of Cameron's, ahem, "unauthorized adaptation" of two Harlan Ellison stories for the plot.

(For the curious but not-yet-informed, they are "Demon With A Glass Hand" and "For I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leathart View Post
Ah, good old Harlan. The man who credits himself with writing both The Bible and The Qur'an.
Yeah, I was gonna say how come we've never heard about the lawsuits.
__________________
"Stop it? I'm counting on it."
"But not because you threaten me. I'll pay you because... it's my pleasure."
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-07-2008, 07:53 PM
MissionTrek08's Avatar
MissionTrek08 MissionTrek08 is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,562
Default

Well, they actually had to acknowledge his previous works in the final credits when TERMINATOR was released on video, which means there was a legal basis for his complaint.
__________________

MISSION:TREK's in-depth review of STAR TREK


Proud member of the Friends of Zardoz Association. Avatar courtesy of Eliza's House of Avatars with three convenient locations near you. Free balloons for the kids!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-07-2008, 07:56 PM
vuedoc's Avatar
vuedoc vuedoc is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,931
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissionTrek08 View Post
Well, they actually had to acknowledge his previous works in the final credits when TERMINATOR was released on video, which means there was a legal basis for his complaint.
Oh, ok. I didn't remember seeing that in the credits- then again, I never saw it on video.
__________________
"Stop it? I'm counting on it."
"But not because you threaten me. I'll pay you because... it's my pleasure."
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-08-2008, 02:01 AM
Zardoz's Avatar
Zardoz Zardoz is offline
Federation Councillor
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Somewhere In The Future
Posts: 31,432
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissionTrek08 View Post
Well, they actually had to acknowledge his previous works in the final credits when TERMINATOR was released on video, which means there was a legal basis for his complaint.
Excellent point Mission!
__________________
"High Priestesses Of Zardoz" By Eliza's Starbase Of Avatars Copyright 2009."
"Zardoz Speaks To You, His Choosen Trek Fans."
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:13 PM.


Forum theme courtesy of Mark Lambert
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.