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Old 08-31-2008, 10:54 PM
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Actually, I'd like to see where it was that Robert and Alex actually SAID this? It's claiming that Orci and Kurtsman are the source of the plot leak, however, the site that Rotten Tomatoes links has a link to a video in which they say NOTHING about a plot.

Is this Rotten Tomatoes getting wrong info? Or am I missing the hard evidence here?
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:45 AM
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Someone came back in time to kill me once.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:40 AM
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The way i see it star trek invented time travel on tv therefor terminator, back to the future etc etc...are monkeys(copies)
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:43 AM
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Why the hell do Romulans want to kill Kirk?

Kirk was the biggest enemy of the Klingon empire.
The Klingon empire was the biggest enemy of the Romulan empire.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

If Kirk dies the Klingon empire becomes stronger, not very clever.

Spock interfered with Romulan interests a lot more than Kirk. Kirk's only harmful deed against the Romulan Empire was comitted in Balance of Terror. That's absolutely nothing compared to these things that happened in Archer's time and the Earth-Romulan War or that happened between Picard or Sisko and the Romulans.

Spock helped to steal the Romulan cloaking technology, without him Kirk never would have made it, Spock initiated the Federation - Klingon alliance in Star Trek VI (while Kirk almost destroyed it), Spock helped the Romulan rebellions in Unification. Spock would be a lot better target than Kirk.
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:19 AM
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Why the hell do Romulans want to kill Kirk?

Kirk was the biggest enemy of the Klingon empire.
The Klingon empire was the biggest enemy of the Romulan empire.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

If Kirk dies the Klingon empire becomes stronger, not very clever.

Spock interfered with Romulan interests a lot more than Kirk. Kirk's only harmful deed against the Romulan Empire was comitted in Balance of Terror. That's absolutely nothing compared to these things that happened in Archer's time and the Earth-Romulan War or that happened between Picard or Sisko and the Romulans.

Spock helped to steal the Romulan cloaking technology, without him Kirk never would have made it, Spock initiated the Federation - Klingon alliance in Star Trek VI (while Kirk almost destroyed it), Spock helped the Romulan rebellions in Unification. Spock would be a lot better target than Kirk.

You've got a point
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Old 09-01-2008, 04:34 AM
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If you check the source of rottentomatoes, Orci&Kurtzman don't reveal anything about the plot, so 'Romulans intend to kill Kirk / Kirk's father' is just speculation added.
Spock as target would indeed make more sense and Kirk's father as target would give an explanation for his death (presuming he dies serving on board the Kelvin).
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:12 AM
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...but there are the freaks canonites out there...
Yeah, aren't people who like Star Trek a pain in the a**? As opposed to folks who just like, how did Rick Berman refer to it, "cool spaceships and stuff blowing up"? I guess some folks will just eat whatever you feed 'em.
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Must have been a strong cup of coffee when they thought of this plot .
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:08 AM
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Someone came back in time to kill me once.
It wasn't me. I've never gone back in time.

I've gone back to bed a few times though.
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:55 AM
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Why the hell do Romulans want to kill Kirk?

Kirk was the biggest enemy of the Klingon empire.
The Klingon empire was the biggest enemy of the Romulan empire.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

If Kirk dies the Klingon empire becomes stronger, not very clever.

Spock interfered with Romulan interests a lot more than Kirk. Kirk's only harmful deed against the Romulan Empire was comitted in Balance of Terror. That's absolutely nothing compared to these things that happened in Archer's time and the Earth-Romulan War or that happened between Picard or Sisko and the Romulans.

Spock helped to steal the Romulan cloaking technology, without him Kirk never would have made it, Spock initiated the Federation - Klingon alliance in Star Trek VI (while Kirk almost destroyed it), Spock helped the Romulan rebellions in Unification. Spock would be a lot better target than Kirk.
Excellent point. Kirk only had 2 (count them, 2) encounters with the Romulans that we know about.

Now....it would be possible for there to be a more personal reason for Nero to want to go back and kill Kirk, but I just can't see that he ever did anything that harmful to the Romulans.

But...you know, if Nero turns out to be the son of either of the Romulan Commanders Kirk encountered, then I could see a "presonal" reason for him to feel Kirk was evil and that history, rewritten without Kirk, would be better.
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