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Old 06-14-2008, 12:10 PM
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I believe I have explanations for the inconsistencies in "Star Trek Nemesis:"
1. Dr. Soong never told Data about B-4.
2. The Remans were the secret soldiers of the Romulans.
3. Lore was never mentioned again after being disassembled.
4. Contact with the inhabitants of Kolarus III was unintentional.
5. Wesley Crusher found the uniform he wore to the wedding decorative.
6. Sela was mostly executed after failing to invade Vulcan.
7. The underground movement of Spock was apparently successful.

If you have any objections to these explanations, I dare you to come up with your own.
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Old 06-14-2008, 04:33 PM
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Actually I was always more curious about how the Romulans knew where to go looking for a Soong android and found one in the first place!
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The existence of B-4 isn't necessarily an inconsistency in the first place. The android of Juliana Soong mentioned to Data that there were numerous prototypes. There were supposed to have been a total of 6 androids created by Soong. 3 prototypes and 3 fully functional ones (Data, Lore, Juliana).
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Personally, I'm beginning to think Stuart Baird tried his best. I know he never watched an episode of "The Next Generation", but I believe he saw "The Wrath of Khan" and "The Undiscovered Country." Who's to say, really? Sure, he didn't take the relationships between the crew into account, but isn't it enough that Will Riker and Deanna Troi just got married?
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:11 AM
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Yep, I think 'Datalore' and other eps established there were several but I still don't get how they managed to just 'find' one and then use it as a lure for the Enterprise. It seems like awfully good luck on Shinzon's part.
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You know what I just found out? Stuart Baird had an interview with BBC News about this and he seemed to imply that he intended "Nemesis" to be a standalone film. It makes a lot of sense if you think about how they did it with "The X-Files."
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I believe I have explanations for the inconsistencies in "Star Trek Nemesis:"
1. Dr. Soong never told Data about B-4.
2. The Remans were the secret soldiers of the Romulans.
3. Lore was never mentioned again after being disassembled.
4. Contact with the inhabitants of Kolarus III was unintentional.
5. Wesley Crusher found the uniform he wore to the wedding decorative.
6. Sela was mostly executed after failing to invade Vulcan.
7. The underground movement of Spock was apparently successful.

If you have any objections to these explanations, I dare you to come up with your own.
1. Why would he?
2. Why not? Just because we have never seen them before does not mean they aren't possible.
3. Again, why should he be? He was deemed "uncurable."
4. True, but that never stops bad things from happening.
5. I don't blame him, they look liek bibs to me.
6. I am not sure what "mostly executed" means. Was she killed, then revived for more punishment? We know the price for sizable failure in the Romulan Empire is death.
7. There is no proof it was, or wasn't. we saw no reunifaction with the Vulcan people onscreen.
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Personally I think they had a pretty good script with a crap director. And a dune buggy, but I doubt the script said "dune buggy". It was probably more, "really cool vehicle" and then Stuart Baird has no taste. Not that I'm bitter.

I've written in defense of Nemesis a lot, but it's okay to vilify it too. Just remember that, at the end of the day, it's still Trek, and we have to learn to live with it. Somehow. My advice is to think of one thing you wish they would do or had done in TNG and then look for it then next time you watch Nemesis. Chances are it's there.

Example: I wish Deanna Troi had had some function other than sitting on the Bridge telling Picard when people are lying (which they do all the time so that's not much of a function).

Anyone else?
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Baird understands that you all took it very seriously. His task was to provide you with two hours of entertainment. And like I said, this film could be a standalone story, just like the "Monster of the Week" episodes they've done on "The X-Files."

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Baird understands that you all took it very seriously. His task was to provide you with two hours of entertainment. And like I said, this film could be a standalone story, just like the "Monster of the Week" episodes they've done on "The X-Files."
You could argue that, yes. But now it's part of Trek lore, unlike X-Files, doen't have alot of flex to it's established canon.
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