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Old 06-05-2008, 09:36 PM
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Which of these is a weaker film?

I absolutely love TSFS, and believe it to be a work of pure genius, and TMP is my favorite film of all time, but both movies are considered weaker films in the franchise. So which was worse of the two? My guess is that majority will pick TMP, though I personally can't see why.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:51 PM
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The Search for Spock was the better. TMP was dull.
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TMP before TMP-DC was dreadfully dull, the DC actually make the film decent!
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TMP took an awfully long time to get going. I mena, yes, I know the ship was refit, but goodness, you don't need a 3 minute pan of it. A few shots of the major differences, 15 seconds, we get the idea. Then again, I suppose if the purpose was to show us just how long a shuttle trip actually is... the job was done.
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I really don't like either film. The Search For Spock is, to me, a big "ha, ha! Made you cry" event. The Motion Picture doesn't even seem like Star Trek to me.
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TMP took an awfully long time to get going. I mena, yes, I know the ship was refit, but goodness, you don't need a 3 minute pan of it. A few shots of the major differences, 15 seconds, we get the idea. Then again, I suppose if the purpose was to show us just how long a shuttle trip actually is... the job was done.
In 1979, they felt they had to complete and be "better" than CEO3K, and SW as far as effects, so that's why we got all these long shots.
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My rule of thumb was that the odd-numbered movies stank until Nemesis. Let's hope that the new one breaks the pattern.
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TMP took an awfully long time to get going. I mena, yes, I know the ship was refit, but goodness, you don't need a 3 minute pan of it. A few shots of the major differences, 15 seconds, we get the idea. Then again, I suppose if the purpose was to show us just how long a shuttle trip actually is... the job was done.
Having just watched that 3-minute pan I have to agree with the sentiment. There are a lot of REALLY dull moments in TMP. But it was SO worth watching that moment because I watched my fiance watch it. I swear he had a tear in his eye... and the music is beautiful so I was happy (and I got a good laugh).

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I really don't like either film. The Search For Spock is, to me, a big "ha, ha! Made you cry" event. The Motion Picture doesn't even seem like Star Trek to me.
hehehe.... this comment (particularly the "ha, ha! Made you cry" bit) made me laugh really loud.

For me, they're both poorly done movies. I think bringing Spock back the way they did was far more of a cheat than the Data/B4 stuff in Nemesis (but I won't go any farther than that here... that discussion is on another thread), so I'm not really a fan of Search for Spock. It has some good moments but it also has some incredibly cliche moments. The Motion Picture has a good concept but WAY too many slow moments. I love a lot of the music, but the movie is far too slow to be decent in my book.

For me, I can't really pick "which is worst"...
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hehehe.... this comment (particularly the "ha, ha! Made you cry" bit) made me laugh really loud.

For me, they're both poorly done movies. I think bringing Spock back the way they did was far more of a cheat than the Data/B4 stuff in Nemesis (but I won't go any farther than that here... that discussion is on another thread), so I'm not really a fan of Search for Spock. It has some good moments but it also has some incredibly cliche moments. The Motion Picture has a good concept but WAY too many slow moments. I love a lot of the music, but the movie is far too slow to be decent in my book.

For me, I can't really pick "which is worst"...
As noted elsewhere...I believe my purpose on the internet is to make people laugh, so I am happy to have done well.... I also appreciate the "hehehehe"...I use it often, it's nice to know that at least one other poster gets it!
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Old 06-08-2008, 07:21 AM
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TMP was the worst...... by far. One reason was that they had more stable direction in TSFS.
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