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Old 05-19-2008, 06:03 AM
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This a good thing IMO. It's the English Common Law system and offers the people the best protection from governments that would infringe their rights. Think of all the times that system has been used by judges to protect the rights of the public in Anglophone countries across world. If we used the Roman based law of Europe, government could and would walk all over us.

Now I won't pretend English Common Law is perfect, it isn't, but like democracy it's the best there is...
Well, that's quite true - and I firmly believe we should conserve what is good and right with the system. However, I believe the Constitution also tried to liberate us from the outdated constraints that have also (unnecessarily) been carried over.

The Constitution, as written, firmly puts the power in the hands of representatives, right down to Judicial level. Yet, somehow, those envisioned as servants have somehow become the masters... and, to quote Guy:



"That's... just not right...!"
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Well, that's quite true - and I firmly believe we should conserve what is good and right with the system. However, I believe the Constitution also tried to liberate us from the outdated constraints that have also (unnecessarily) been carried over.

The Constitution, as written, firmly puts the power in the hands of representatives, right down to Judicial level. Yet, somehow, those envisioned as servants have somehow become the masters... and, to quote Guy:



"That's... just not right...!"
Well you are very right, but we have only ourselves to blame for giving them that power/ Only we can take it away.
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I think many of our social and political ills could be improved if not solved by simply getting American citizens to vote in every election. Stay informed, vote your conscience and beliefs and not a party, and pay attention to the results.

American government is a participatory body, and apathy leads to ruin. An active and informed electorate voting in-and-out candidates based on performance, not personality, would quickly begin to form more accurate representation of the nation's goals and priorities.

On many levels, we are all to blame for every bad policy and poor political hack emanating from our system of government. You can't sleep at the wheel and expect to get where you want to go. As noted, that means we have the power to make vast improvements for ourselves if we exercise the will and responsibility to do so.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:55 AM
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As noted, that means we have the power to make vast improvements for ourselves if we exercise the will and responsibility to do so.
Exactly!

As I like to phrase it: "If you don't exercise your rights, they'll get so fat and flabby that when you REALLY need them to stand up and fight, they won't even be able to get up off the couch..."
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I think many of our social and political ills could be improved if not solved by simply getting American citizens to vote in every election. Stay informed, vote your conscience and beliefs and not a party, and pay attention to the results.

American government is a participatory body, and apathy leads to ruin. An active and informed electorate voting in-and-out candidates based on performance, not personality, would quickly begin to form more accurate representation of the nation's goals and priorities.

On many levels, we are all to blame for every bad policy and poor political hack emanating from our system of government. You can't sleep at the wheel and expect to get where you want to go. As noted, that means we have the power to make vast improvements for ourselves if we exercise the will and responsibility to do so.
This is sooo true. It seems most people don't even bother to vote, then complain endlessly about government. I know it would take time, but a fully engaged populace WOULD change things.
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