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Old 05-16-2008, 05:07 PM
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Folks, I hate to bring some pseudo-intellectual criticism into the debate... but what the heck do we as consumers actually care about wether this movie will make a 10% profit as usual or become a "blockbuster" and make, well, I dont know how much profit a movie must make to be labeled blockbuster these silly days. 50%, 100, 200 perhaps?

Seriously, isnt it somewhat frightening that marketing speech is so powerfull even the consumers start to care about the investors profits?

All I want is a high quality movie. And I am pretty optimistic J.J.s version of Trek will be a neat two hours trip beyond the final frontier.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:45 PM
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Botany, I think the reason why such 'marketing' talk enters the discussion here is that HOW well Abrams' film does will affect the future of the franchise, one way or another. So, it's of interest.

Now, once we start getting harder and better info from the film (new clips, photos, details), we'll stop talking about the profit margins and start talking about the story in earnest.

But for now, the "big" and continuing story about this TREK is the marketing, until we have bigger fish to fry -- the teaser, the site, the release date move, etc.

Give us time, we'll be hip deep in discussing story and character implications as soon as we're able! Hang in there, friend.
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:07 PM
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:08 PM
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I think it won't be the biggest film of the year, or win an academy award, but do feel it will do enough buisness to justify a sequel.
That may, (and i stress the word "may") just turn out to be the case as far as it's U.S. release goes, because of the negative light many people here still see Star Trek in and the "I'm not going to see a movie with a major geek factor." factor. But in world-wide ticket sales this film is going to blow everything else away. Because people in India, Russia, Germany, Great Britain, Canada and France know a groovy movie when they see one. And if Abrams does make a killer, awesome, thrill ride of a Star Trek film, word will get around even here, and Star Trek might have the biggest second week take of a U.S. release ever. I'm hoping for the best possible outcome. But even if i'm wrong, even if this movie winds up being a total bomb, i'll still see it as many times as i can, because i'm a trekkie and we trekkies don't believe in the no win scenario.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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I'm hoping for the best possible outcome. But even if i'm wrong, even if this movie winds up being a total bomb, i'll still see it as many times as i can, because i'm a trekkie and we trekkies don't believe in the no win scenario.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:57 PM
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That may, (and i stress the word "may") just turn out to be the case as far as it's U.S. release goes, because of the negative light many people here still see Star Trek in and the "I'm not going to see a movie with a major geek factor." factor.
I just don't see a widespread, anti-geek factor which actively, vocally keeps people out of a theater because it's a TREK film or anything else.

Nor do I see the box office numbers reflecting a 'fear' of US audiences staying away from "geeky" subject matter or material. IRON MAN should fall into such a geek-factor trap of avoidance, if that's what audiences were wary of, and yet it has been a smash hit in two weeks of release. It's based on a comic book... what could be more "geeky" than that? And a comic book with I'll wager MOST of its broader audience demos have NEVER read before (including me).

Geeky comic book origins sure isn't stopping THE DARK KNIGHT from being one of the year's most anticipated films.

We see evidence of the box office trends changing, away from the perception of subject matter to audiences flocking to find good films, regardless of the source material. Hundreds of millions of dollars speak very loudly.

If Abrams' TREK is good, audiences will be drawn to it, regardless of their history with the franchise or lack thereof. Period. If a few people refuse to see TREK because it's too geeky for them, then they weren't going anyway so they will be no loss to TREK's box office totals.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:41 AM
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That may, (and i stress the word "may") just turn out to be the case as far as it's U.S. release goes, because of the negative light many people here still see Star Trek in and the "I'm not going to see a movie with a major geek factor." factor. But in world-wide ticket sales this film is going to blow everything else away. Because people in India, Russia, Germany, Great Britain, Canada and France know a groovy movie when they see one. And if Abrams does make a killer, awesome, thrill ride of a Star Trek film, word will get around even here, and Star Trek might have the biggest second week take of a U.S. release ever. I'm hoping for the best possible outcome. But even if i'm wrong, even if this movie winds up being a total bomb, i'll still see it as many times as i can, because i'm a trekkie and we trekkies don't believe in the no win scenario.
I do belive, if done well, the film will be sucessful, and spawn sequels. But, like I said, I realistically don't see an Oscar for Trek, no matter how good it does. But heck, I could be wrong.
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