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Old 05-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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I think they're mainly trying to stick to the established canon, but there's no doubt certain things they have to change, and even as someone who's watched Star Trek pretty much my whole life, I can admit that, that's probably for the best.

Seeing the old style ships, complete with silly flashing buttons in later series' like Enterprise was just weird and out of place. Budget and technology constrictions shouldn't have been carried on as canon through out the later series.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:29 PM
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You think each of those three terms are exclusive? You are confused.
They are exclusive:

Reboot - restarting the universe from scratch by ignoring previous productions and creating a new canon. Example - Casino Royale.

Prequel - set before previous adventures, but stays within their canon. Example - Star Wars Episodes I - III.

Remake - redoing of an old movie, usually with the same title and sticking to the original storyline. Example - The Thomas Crown Affair.

How can you make a movie that is all those things? You simply can't...
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:26 PM
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They are exclusive:

Reboot - restarting the universe from scratch by ignoring previous productions and creating a new canon. Example - Casino Royale.

Prequel - set before previous adventures, but stays within their canon. Example - Star Wars Episodes I - III.

Remake - redoing of an old movie, usually with the same title and sticking to the original storyline. Example - The Thomas Crown Affair.

How can you make a movie that is all those things? You simply can't...
Thats what I'm saying!
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:01 PM
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It will be a remootquel. There.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:14 PM
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It will be a remootquel. There.
*Sighs*

PREmootquel!
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*Sighs*

PREmootquel!
Right! I was wondering why I had a leftover P. Good one, Gunny!
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I hate it when leftover P just lies around...stinks up the place
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:42 PM
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They are exclusive:

Reboot - restarting the universe from scratch by ignoring previous productions and creating a new canon. Example - Casino Royale.

Prequel - set before previous adventures, but stays within their canon. Example - Star Wars Episodes I - III.

Remake - redoing of an old movie, usually with the same title and sticking to the original storyline. Example - The Thomas Crown Affair.

How can you make a movie that is all those things? You simply can't...
Reboots really only work for things that have been completely dead for about 20 years. Battlestar Galactica? Yup. Ocean's 11? Yup. Casino Royale? Well... bit of a fluke there, but the reason it was the exception is that the rule so often applies.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:46 PM
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I don't know any exclusives, but I did see some pictures a while back that we were not allowed to post here and then they were gone everywhere. Whether they were real or not remains to be seen, but I think it is reboot in the sense of Bond 2006, which I personally like out of the three options. For me it's the best idea, sticking mostly to canon, but giving it a good ol' dose of steak and beer or a wheat grass shake and Plomeek soup -- if you're a vegetarian or a Vulcan.

I know most Trek fanboys wanted J.J and the writers to stay within canon and I get it. But trying to make a new story that isn't weighed down with superfluous rhetoric, which was created by inferior writers over the years, is a tall order. And I know a few of you agree, unless you love every episode of every series.

So I guess my rant is to say, who cares what kind of 're - boot, vamp, hash or prequel... I just wish die-hards could let go of the old and embrace the new. Isn't that what Star Trek is all about, changing and growing. I'm just happy we're getting another movie to be honest. Aren't you?
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:57 PM
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Casino Royale? Well... bit of a fluke there, but the reason it was the exception is that the rule so often applies.
Not quite...

The original 'Casino Royale' *is* 'canon' Bond, in that it is based off one of Fleming's short stories. (...and having about as much resemblance to it as any of the other works; that is to say, little-to-none). It's merely that the 'established' set of Bond films, from EON Productions, (and defined by Albert "Cubby" Broccoli), differed from the 'spoofish' Niven version. (C.R. Being the ONLY Fleming right they hadn't secured... at the time.)

So, since the 'original' wasn't part of the 'franchise', it... er, 'doesn't really count'. Indeed, the franchise allowed the time to pass so that the could do it 'right' long after the memory of how it was done 'wrong' faded from the public consciousness. (...next? Maybe 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service', perhaps...? *Grin*)
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