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Old 05-01-2008, 01:10 PM
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I thought the Data thing was so boring. The show's called Star Trek, not Time Trek.

Hopefully the new motto for future Trek will be, 'No Cute Kids. No Cute Robots. No Time Travel, and No Holodecks.'
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The point has been brought up elsewhere that maybe the figure in the transporter is in fact Nero. Would make an intersting tie in.
That would be interesting. Of course, the writers would have to have knowledge of this...hopefully they've done their research, or have thorough consultants.

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The TCW was officially over after the early fourth season episode "Stormfront, part 2". The mandate that Berman gave to Coto was essentially to "wrap this thing up." The whole alien Nazi thing in 1944--that was Berman's idea, not Coto's. In the end, it was Coto who had to figure out (1) How to resolve the TCW, and (2) How to get Archer back to the 22nd-Century.

I don't think Coto had any desire to revisit the TCW storyline again after that--and I can't really blame him.

I actually believe that Berman & Braga had no idea who "Future Guy" from the pilot episode really was either. He was created to be just a mysterious villain and the character was never taken any farther than that...
I thought ENT was great, but I admit to being one of the fans who didn't like the whole concept of TCW.

Time travel is a part of Trek, and I love when it is used. But TCW just never sat well with me. They did some really good time travel type episodes (like E2), but the whole WWII thing just seemed out of place.

Maybe it would have worked out better if the end of TCW wasn't so rushed and sloppy...if they did have another season or two, maybe it could have been better resolved.
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That would be interesting. Of course, the writers would have to have knowledge of this...hopefully they've done their research, or have thorough consultants.



I thought ENT was great, but I admit to being one of the fans who didn't like the whole concept of TCW.

Time travel is a part of Trek, and I love when it is used. But TCW just never sat well with me. They did some really good time travel type episodes (like E2), but the whole WWII thing just seemed out of place.

Maybe it would have worked out better if the end of TCW wasn't so rushed and sloppy...if they did have another season or two, maybe it could have been better resolved.
I agree with you, but such is the way of TV shows.
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I thought the Data thing was so boring. The show's called Star Trek, not Time Trek.

Hopefully the new motto for future Trek will be, 'No Cute Kids. No Cute Robots. No Time Travel, and No Holodecks.'
It was slow because (I thought) that they made it a two parter but the idea was unconventional and going back to a slightly-commonly time period was intresting from a Star Trek point of view.

Time Trek will always be appart of STar Trek. They'll never let it go. That's the stark realities of the sitution but hopefully they can use it more responsibily.
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I thought the Data thing was so boring. The show's called Star Trek, not Time Trek.

Hopefully the new motto for future Trek will be, 'No Cute Kids. No Cute Robots. No Time Travel, and No Holodecks.'
Well I wouldn't hold your breath for it, at least the time travel. Now the rest is a possibility.
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Time Trek will always be appart of STar Trek.
Time...it keeps everything from happening at once.

These are the voyages of the Timeship Relativity. It's eternal mission: to maintain the space-time continuum...to preserve the past and to protect the present...to boldly go towards the future...


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Time...it keeps everything from happening at once.

These are the voyages of the Timeship Relativity. It's eternal mission: to maintain the space-time continuum...to preserve the past and to protect the present...to boldly go towards the future...


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TIME TREK!
ROFL!! would you belive Commodre, I did almost the exact same thing in anothr thread today!!! Great minds think alike!
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Lol, nice Commodore.

I liked the Temporal Cold War. Who doesn't like a 30th century time police? And anyways my theory of time, which is a conglomerate of many other TV shows and books, is that events history would occur while taking into account the time-traveler's actions.

It's like in *sigh*, for the sake of my theory being universally understood, Harry Potter 3. The reason why Harry survived the dementors was because his future self went back to save himself.

Time is a river...an enormous, powerful river. One tiny rock isn't going to disrupt its flow. I think the whole idea of one person changing all of time is just mankind's arrogance shining through. Remember people, compared to the infinite universe that has existed for eternity, we're as insignificant as an old tuna sandwhich in a trash bin.
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...we're as insignificant as an old tuna sandwhich in a trash bin.
Ah, but if the sandwich hadn't been there, then the cat wouldn't have come sniffing around - if the cat hadn't been sniffing around, Mr. X. wouldn't have inadvertently stepped on it's tail, causing it to screech - had the cat not screeched...

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'Temporal Continuity for Dummies':

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a nail!


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"Time is a river...an enormous, powerful river." This presupposes that 'time' already has a set flow - that the 'banks of the river' are predetermined ahead of time. On the other hand, perhaps it's 'just one darned thing after another'... and each event (or cusp) redefines the possible events that can occur past that point.

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