[Mr pointy ears]

I didnt think it was necessary to destroy the D in it's first outing on the big screen,i agree with commodore, they could of abandoned ship if the ship got to badly damaged and return to it later and get an upgraded and be even bigger and better for the next movie.

[Elizadolots]

One thing to consider: movie people love to have their own cool sets. Every TOS movie had a different ship..... at least Next Gen offered up a reason for the new ship: the first one got totalled.

[Akula2ssn]

Originally Posted by Mr pointy ears

I didnt think it was necessary to destroy the D in it's first outing on the big screen,i agree with commodore, they could of abandoned ship if the ship got to badly damaged and return to it later and get an upgraded and be even bigger and better for the next movie.

Actually depending on how badly damaged the ship is, the material cost to just salvage the ship and get it back into operating condition alone can be quite prohibitive and time consuming. If it's really heavily damaged to the point of compromising the structure, you can likely build a brand spanking new ship from the keel up for a lesser cost in time and materials. Wartime conditions might be more permissive. Even today, it's already very costly and time consuming to prepare a ship for decommissioning and scrapping.

Theoretically the saucer of the big D could have been salvaged and mated with a new stardrive section. But it would have been a nightmare for them to strip down and completely inspect the structure and plan everything out after that point from repairs and refitting.

[Botany Bay]

To destroy the D was nothing more and nothing less then stupid.

And of all the possible reasons you all stated here, sory, none of them makes sense:

They wanted to crash land the ship? Cool, but why to do it two times? The second time Picard could have altered the timeline and safe the ship.

They wanted a ship that suited cinema in details and structure? Thats why the D was such a great model. It was clean, elegant AND detailed. Never seen a model in Trek again that combined these both things in such a sophisticated way.

They wanted new sets? They could have given the interiors a workover without destroying the whole ship.

So, what was it then?

They wanted to make a fast buck on selling the modells and toys of the E-Enterprise. Thats what it was and nothing else. For the same reasons the uniforms had to change all five minutes, to sell more action figures.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Botany Bay

To destroy the D was nothing more and nothing less then stupid.

And of all the possible reasons you all stated here, sory, none of them makes sense:

They wanted to crash land the ship? Cool, but why to do it two times? The second time Picard could have altered the timeline and safe the ship.

They wanted a ship that suited cinema in details and structure? Thats why the D was such a great model. It was clean, elegant AND detailed. Never seen a model in Trek again that combined these both things in such a sophisticated way.

They wanted new sets? They could have given the interiors a workover without destroying the whole ship.

So, what was it then?

They wanted to make a fast buck on selling the modells and toys of the E-Enterprise. Thats what it was and nothing else. For the same reasons the uniforms had to change all five minutes, to sell more action figures.

I cannot disagree with this. My first post on this thread I listed all the silly things that had to happen to make the D's destruction possible.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Botany Bay

To destroy the D was nothing more and nothing less then stupid.

And of all the possible reasons you all stated here, sory, none of them makes sense:

They wanted to crash land the ship? Cool, but why to do it two times? The second time Picard could have altered the timeline and safe the ship.

They wanted a ship that suited cinema in details and structure? Thats why the D was such a great model. It was clean, elegant AND detailed. Never seen a model in Trek again that combined these both things in such a sophisticated way.

They wanted new sets? They could have given the interiors a workover without destroying the whole ship.

So, what was it then?

They wanted to make a fast buck on selling the modells and toys of the E-Enterprise. Thats what it was and nothing else. For the same reasons the uniforms had to change all five minutes, to sell more action figures.

Well said. This quote, and Zardoz's on page one, sum it up for me. If the D wasn't "movie" quality then it could have been made so very easily.

I also much mention one more thing about poor writing. If I knew there was a crazy man blowing up stars and I had the ability to jump into any past point in time to stop him... I would not jump to the point in time right before he is going to do it! If I had been Picard I would have jumped back to the scene where Suran gives his "time is the fire in which we burn" arguement, then I would have security throw him in the brig. I guess that would have been too easy of a conclusion.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by MrQ1701

Well said. This quote, and Zardoz's on page one, sum it up for me. If the D wasn't "movie" quality then it could have been made so very easily.

I also much mention one more thing about poor writing. If I knew there was a crazy man blowing up stars and I had the ability to jump into any past point in time to stop him... I would not jump to the point in time right before he is going to do it! If I had been Picard I would have jumped back to the scene where Suran gives his "time is the fire in which we burn" arguement, then I would have security throw him in the brig. I guess that would have been too easy of a conclusion.

Yes.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

Yes.

I guess what I was trying to get at is that the writers should have not made Picard's exit of the Nexus so wide open to any point in time. If they wanted the movie to unfold as it did, and to make sense, they should have said you could only exit within 10 minutes of when you entered, but you could take someone with you that entered at a different point in time.

Does that make sense?

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by MrQ1701

I guess what I was trying to get at is that the writers should have not made Picard's exit of the Nexus so wide open to any point in time. If they wanted the movie to unfold as it did, and to make sense, they should have said you could only exit within 10 minutes of when you entered, but you could take someone with you that entered at a different point in time.

Does that make sense?

I never got the impression you got to choose your departure time, but I could be wrong.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

I never got the impression you got to choose your departure time, but I could be wrong.

If I remember correctly Guinen (or her "echo") tells Picard he can exit into any point in time he wants. Then picard says "i know exactly where I want to go....".