[MrQ1701]

I have always felt that the Enterprise 1701D was destroyed to soon after the series ended. I mean...come on! The first movie!! I also didn't like the way she was destroyed. I would rather she go out after destroying a number of enemy vessels in a dramatic battle, not taken out by a sucker punch. Your thoughts?

[NCC-73515]

Their reason to do it was that the ship was not made for movies, and they needed a new design for the big screen.

[Zardoz]

Hmm I seem to remember this discussion....from soemwhere....LOL

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by NCC-73515

Their reason to do it was that the ship was not made for movies, and they needed a new design for the big screen.

Not true. The 10 foot model was used for filming of Generations. ILM made it overly detailed back in '86.

[Zardoz]

Ok Paramount's apprach to the destruction was that they wanted to start fresh next film, leave all the TV stuff behind, pass the torch, and move on. Bad move, I say.

Now to the actual destruction. Ok I can belive a 20 year old Brid of Prey can attune it's weapons to pass through the sheilds (espeically since they knew the frequency.)

Now why, when the crew saw that the sheilds were up and they had cracked the frequency, that they simply didn't modulate the frequency? Worked really well against the Borg in "Best of Both Worlds."

Or, if something was wrong and they couldn't modulate sheild, why not simply warp jump past them? Guess they forgot how to engage warp that day...lol.

Ok, if for some reason we don't know, both of those were not options, why didn't Geordie do soemthing from engineering???? He got the D out much tighter scrapes than this!!! Did he forget how to make the ship work? Was he having a bad day? Did the writers make him seem like a idiot?

Ok, forgetting all that even, did they forget how to do sublight evasive manuvers? Seemed to work thought the series.

So basically they stayed right where they were and let them hit the ONE thing on the ship that could actually casue terminal damage, the nacelle.

Even hitting that, again why didn't it automatically shut down like it's DESGINED to do? I guess that wasn't working either.

Ok so now we have a feedback into the warp core, again that didn't automatically shut down. Seems La Forge must have had a lobotomy that day, because he could have SHUT DOWN or EJECTED the core, neither of which he didn't do.

Ok, so they evacuate everyone to the saucer section. that takes at least what 2 mins? So nobody did anything to try and stop this in that 2 mins? That seems odd since they did things up to the last second in the series.

Ok all this other crap they didn't do. Ok the stardrive section is gonna blow. The sacuer section they allways stated had full impulse power. Why didn't they hit full impulse and "sprint" around the planet and use it to block the worst of the shock of the warp drive exploding? Surely Troi could navigate well enough to do that after command training.

Guess my bottom line is yes, the D was destoryed too soon, and without much thought, as many of things in Generations was as a whole.

[MrQ1701]

I am aware of all the studio's reasons for wanting a new ship. I just didn't agree with it. I wanted to see the big, bad-a** D in full big screen glory. I felt like they did more than destroy a ship, they killed one of my most beloved characters. If they HAD to get rid of the D it should have been in a real blaze of glory. Even the battle in Nemesis was weak, in my opinion.

[Commodore]

I was more upset about losing the Enterprise-D than about Kirk.

It was destroyed simply because it was thought to be a cool thing to do. They could have easily simply had the ship critically damaged and left dead in space so that it could undergo a refit for the next film.


The refitted Enterprise-D didn't need to look like the above alternate future version in "All Good Things..." Changes to the warp nacelles, the pylons, and perhaps the interconnecting dorsal would have been enough, IMO...

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Commodore

I was more upset about losing the Enterprise-D than about Kirk.

It was destroyed simply because it was thought to be a cool thing to do. They could have easily simply had the ship critically damaged and left dead in space so that it could undergo a refit for the next film.


The refitted Enterprise-D didn't need to look like the above alternate future version in "All Good Things..." Changes to the warp nacelles, the pylons, and perhaps the interconnecting dorsal would have been enough, IMO...

"From the same DORKS who decided to blow up the D on it's first movie mission, it's the laternate future D with too much crap all over it!!"

ROFL

[Commodore]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

"From the same DORKS who decided to blow up the D on it's first movie mission, it's the laternate future D with too much crap all over it!!"

ROFL

Yeah, I'm not particularly a fan of this alternature future Enterprise-D myself, but I can understand the rationale behind it. They needed to create a futuristic version of the ship, but one that wasn't necessarily the next evolutionary step of the design. The easiest way to do that was to take the original Enterprise-D design and just add a lot more stuff to it.

I like to call it the Galaxy-class fanboy refit...

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Commodore

Yeah, I'm not particularly a fan of this alternature future Enterprise-D myself, but I can understand the rationale behind it. They needed to create a futuristic version of the ship, but one that wasn't necessarily the next evolutionary step of the design. The easiest way to do that was to take the original Enterprise-D design and just add a lot more stuff to it.

I like to call it the Galaxy-class fanboy refit...

That would be accurate.

Like you said, they coulda done small stuff to it an it woulda worked.