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Old 03-31-2008, 03:27 PM
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Default Janeway is one hell of a good starship Captain!

If i had to list the known captains from all of the series, she would be second only to James T. Kirk himself. In fact, her devotion to ship and crew rival that of Kirk. Here's my rating of Starfleet Captains:

1. James T. Kirk
2. Catherine Janeway
3. Jean Luc Picard
4. Benjamin Sisko
5. Hikaru Sulu
6. Christopher Pike
7. Johnathan Archer

I've been watching the show a lot lately and Janeway's attitude and demeanor have really impressed me. I feel as if she hasn't been given the credit she is due.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:40 PM
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She was dreadful captain.

She was so devoted to her ship and crew, she marooned them in the Delta Quadrant for the sake of helping the Ocampa in a situation that had absolutely nothing to do with her.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:53 PM
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Let it suffice to say that what i'm seeing is the farthest thing from "dreadful" i can think of. The Delta Quadrant was a plot device, no, it was THE plot device. If the ship hadn't gotten lost, the whole idea behind the show would have been meaningless. So i'm not going to blame her for what got the plotline started. That would be the writer's fault. But in tough situations, She knew her stuff backwards and forwards. She had no problem making critical decisions and making up her mind what action to take. Remember, he who hesitates is lost. Blaming her for marooning the ship in the Delta Quadrant is like blaming the Titanic for placing an iceberg in her own path. It was simply going to happen no matter what.
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She's my fav. I really like the episode "Shattered" . It's the spirit of the series in a nutshell. Love it.
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She was dreadful captain.

She was so devoted to her ship and crew, she marooned them in the Delta Quadrant for the sake of helping the Ocampa in a situation that had absolutely nothing to do with her.
I know, isn't that great!

Most people would ignore the needs of others and just be on their way, but even though it left her crew stranded for years, her decision saved a race of people.
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Kathryn Janeway tortured an officer... and she locked her 1st officer up because he intervened. When her best friend wanted to tell her his opinion, she threatened him.
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Didn't destroying the array technically violate the "Prime Directive?"
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She's my fav. I really like the episode "Shattered" . It's the spirit of the series in a nutshell. Love it.
I haven't seen that one yet, i'll be looking for it to come on. I can't afford the flippin' DVD's!
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I haven't seen that one yet, i'll be looking for it to come on. I can't afford the flippin' DVD's!
I saw this on tv when it first aired and saw it again a few days ago when I got the season 7 dvd. Voyager is fractured into different timeframes. Chakotay is the only one aware of the fractures and can travel through them. He found Janeway in the past before she went after him in the Badlands. He needed her help and had to convince her he wasn't there to kill her. He gives her the ability to travel between the timeframes as well. Janeway is so shocked at what she sees in her future, she tells Chakotay to make the ship whole again in her timeframe so she can prevent that "mistake". He argues against it, talking about the creating of this tight-knit family out of the most unlikely combination of people. The crew members of different points in time(even a pre-liberated Seven, she is too cool for words in this episode) end up coming together and save the day in the end. It's a Star Trek "It's a Wonderful Life". I really love this episode.

There is this hilarious moment where Janeway is with him. They moved into a new timeframe... there is a body. He's pondering out loud "This may have been the time when the telepathic pitcher plants put us into comas or when...." Janeway looks at him like "what?"
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I always catch **** for this from my friends, but I think she may be my favorite captain of all the series.

Here is my background before you judge: I am a white heterosexual male, grew up with TNG as my first Trek, LOVE action films, rock&roll, sports, and beer.

So shouldn't I pick Kirk? Or even Sisko or Archer? Or Picard, since TNG will always be my favorite?

According to sterotypes I should, but for some reason I have always thought that Janeway was an incredible captain. And I guess that maybe that shows a little something to not just Voyager, but Trek in general.
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