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Old 03-22-2008, 09:34 PM
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Default The original actors. What do you really think?

Could they have chosen any better actors to portray the original series crew? I personally don't think so. Star Trek would have been so much different if Jeffery Hunter had remained captain. William Shatner was the right guy at the right time to be Captain of the Enterprise. Leonard Nimoy filled Spock's shoes perfectly. If Majel Barret had remained second in command, he would have just been another ancillary character, Deforrest Kelley made Dr. McCoy exactly what he needed to be. The way he griped and complained and ribbed Spock and that look he got when he held up and examined a test tube. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Nichols as Uhura, Takai as Sulu, Koenig as Chekov and especially Doohan as Scotty. It just wouldn't have been the same without any of them. I can't imagine any other television personalities of the time playing those parts. It was fate, kismet, meant to be. I believe the actors finally chosen for these parts were every bit as crucial to Star Trek becoming the very special, highly well known and fondly remembered series that it was, as Roddenberry, D.C. Fontana, Harlan Ellison, Matt Jeffries and the rest of the creative team behind the scenes. So tell me, how do you feel? And remember, this is for posterity. So please, be honest.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:33 PM
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Well it's hard to say at this point, I have to say I'm not too familiar with any of these young actors,(but what do I know, I'm just a middle-aged fart) and thier capabilites. As far as looks go, they seem almost dead ringers for thier older counterparts,(especially Zach Quinto playing Spock!). We already know Nimoy and G. Takei, and N. Nicholls approve of thier replacements, not sure 100% about Shatner's feelings on Pine, Deforest Kelly and James Doohan are unfortunately no longer with us so we'll never know how they'd feel with Urban and Pegg,(although it looks like Mr. Doohan's son approves of Pegg)- so there you have it! - I think. I have much confidence that this will be something to remember,(hopefully in a good way)unlike any Trek we've seen before!
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:04 PM
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I've not entertained the idea much but surfice to say there is nothing like the real thang.
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Old 03-23-2008, 03:35 AM
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I can't imagine TOS without that cast. I know there was probably someone out there that could've carried each of those parts, but to me it was lighting in a bottle, right timing, right casting, right writing, everything came together at the right time. I heard that Tom Selleck was very close to playing Indiana Jones and everything was set to go, but he had a prior engagement, he was working on Magnum P.I. at the time and couldn't do it so Harrison Ford came along. If Selleck ended up getting the part, it would've been interesting but not the same Indiana. With that movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark, it was the same thing, the right casting, right directing, right writing, one little thing and it'd be a totally different experience as with Trek.

Most importantly you have Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley, they are the key, if anyone could be replaced, it'd be very difficult to find three actors that had such chemistry as they and that's exactly what the writing calls for, you need that trio and those three actors deliver it! Sure, there are surely other actors out there that could've played those parts but not like the cast we got. I can't imagine it getting much better than that. I brought up Jones, cause I can't imagine anyone else playing that part but Harrison Ford and it's the same with Kirk. If you cast right then most of your problems are over. It's an interesting question cause if Rodenberry cast any differently then it's very possible his vision of the future never would've caught on. His ideas, his vision, his whole concept of the future never would get off the ground if he didn't have a cast to deliver it and I don't think you could've gotten a better cast. I'm not one much for destiny and that sort of thing but with that cast, it was meant to be or if not, then what a hell of a stroke of luck!
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:13 AM
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The original cast was trek. TNG was a pretty good follow up but everything beyond that came far short of what the original crew captured.
Only time will tell but i think that Abrams seems to be a very smart guy who has done serious homework. I would imagine that he did not only spend time listening to the original crew but observing subtle things about them both from meeting as well as watching episodes of the original series.
Not to create carbon copies but i expect to experience enough subtle markers throughtout the film because of this that will make the performance of the new cast ring true.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:23 PM
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If there has been different actors originally, you'd be saying the same about them.

John W really portrayed Kirk the way it needed to be.
Steve M did Spock to a T

etc...
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I love Bill Shatner and Kirk is Trek in many, many ways. But clearly I have a huge void on the Pike issue. Jeffrey Hunter and Chris Pike were left unfinished . . ."Menagerie" or not.

That's why I dream this movie will be 'Pike-centric" (Longshot...I know)

If I had to choose someone who I never really gelled on, it would have to be Koenig as Chekov, but that was more of an issue with the character, not the actor.
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:36 PM
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I can't imagine TOS without that cast. I know there was probably someone out there that could've carried each of those parts, but to me it was lighting in a bottle, right timing, right casting, right writing, everything came together at the right time. I heard that Tom Selleck was very close to playing Indiana Jones and everything was set to go, but he had a prior engagement, he was working on Magnum P.I. at the time and couldn't do it so Harrison Ford came along. If Selleck ended up getting the part, it would've been interesting but not the same Indiana. With that movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark, it was the same thing, the right casting, right directing, right writing, one little thing and it'd be a totally different experience as with Trek.

Most importantly you have Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley, they are the key, if anyone could be replaced, it'd be very difficult to find three actors that had such chemistry as they and that's exactly what the writing calls for, you need that trio and those three actors deliver it! Sure, there are surely other actors out there that could've played those parts but not like the cast we got. I can't imagine it getting much better than that. I brought up Jones, cause I can't imagine anyone else playing that part but Harrison Ford and it's the same with Kirk. If you cast right then most of your problems are over. It's an interesting question cause if Rodenberry cast any differently then it's very possible his vision of the future never would've caught on. His ideas, his vision, his whole concept of the future never would get off the ground if he didn't have a cast to deliver it and I don't think you could've gotten a better cast. I'm not one much for destiny and that sort of thing but with that cast, it was meant to be or if not, then what a hell of a stroke of luck!
That hadn't ocurred to me Livingston. But it's true. Without the chemistry of the original cast, there would have been far less interest in the show, and it would have failed at the end of the second season. The fan letter writing campaign never would have taken place. But it's like you said, lightning in a bottle. The right people, the right idea, the right time. And when Star Trek was winding down, we were launching our first man to the moon. What a thought!
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Now, don't get me wrong, I can't imagine ST without Shatner playing Kirk... but what if they had cast someone a little more... I don't know... rico suave? I've sometimes wondered if Star Trek would have been taken more seriously without Shatner's....need... to... PAUSE... a... lot...
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:34 AM
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Personally I feel Star Trek New Voages/Star Trek Phase 1-Prooved you could do TOS with diffrent actors, and make it enjoyagble. WHile I admit those folks look nothing like the original actors, they embody the basic spirit of them. This is a fan effort.

Besdies, the originals are far too old to try it again...we'd be calling this "Geriatric Trek." LOL
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