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Old 09-25-2011, 08:44 AM
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Honestly, I really hope you're kidding.
I'm dead serious.

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I would probably actually think about seeing the next movie in the theater if I knew he was in it.
JJ: "He's in."
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:19 AM
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JJ: "He's in."
Cite please?

I'm of the 'conspiracy theory' that they left Shatner out of the previous film *specifically* because the scope of the project surpassed anything Shatner's acting 'abilities' could match, and that his presence would only have pulled it down. Or as Car-Crash Guy said in his review: "Nimoy yes, Shatner no." Far as my mean-spirited @$$ is concerned, a conversation to this effect 'most likely' took place during development.

So, until I hear otherwise I'm calling it. False until proven otherwise.

The notion that they would actually cast him as Kirk, let alone a CG de-aged version of the character, only weakens credibility that much further.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:48 AM
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I believe that the mods (acting on the orders of JJ???) are conspiring to conceal the mounting evidence that Shat is in the new Trek so that the hype and surprise will be huger. They want the hype to reach Beatles-like proportions when Shat appears in the movie so that they can maximize profits. I understand completely (rly!) and I hope it works and that this film does awesome!
and another one: " theory of frakes in the new trek????"

That was before XI came out, which of course had neither Shatner nor Frakes in it
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:55 AM
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I'm of the 'conspiracy theory' that they left Shatner out of the previous film *specifically* because the scope of the project surpassed anything Shatner's acting 'abilities' could match,
This assumes that Shatner actually was left out of the previous film, a premise I deny:

http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/...ad.php?t=11132
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:44 PM
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This assumes that Shatner actually was left out of the previous film, a premise I deny:

http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/...ad.php?t=11132
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:37 PM
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They probably just figured people were familiar with his appearance in the films and didn't go too far back.

I've never been quite clear on the 'timeline' of the film series, given that they seem to span (not counting X-Men: First Class) from the early 1970s to 'the not too distant future' which is sorta vague. I'm not sure the makers are either, because I can't actually imagine that James McAvoy would go from how he looked in 1962 to looking like Stewart in roughly 1979 in 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' (assuming the Three Mile Island connection dates the film to roughly that period).

It's pretty fudged.

That aside, I still didn't find the CGI in Tron: Legacy great either.

I found it much better visually.
What wasn't very good was the movement of the facial features. If he had never had talked...it would have been perfect...or rather if they had done the Avatar program to mimic those facial movements...we would all be none the wiser.

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Old 09-25-2011, 10:57 PM
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Still, for the infancy of the effect, I thought the FX they used in TRON LEGACY were spectacular. Just think, in a couple more years, it'll be almost all too convincing. Older actors could get their second wind.

And Jeff Bridges is just a killer actor all around.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:17 AM
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What wasn't very good was the movement of the facial features. If he had never had talked...it would have been perfect...or rather if they had done the Avatar program to mimic those facial movements...we would all be none the wise
That may have mitigated it, yep.
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