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Old 09-28-2011, 06:02 AM
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But why can't Janeway's inconsistency just be part of her character?
You can of course interpret her like this but bad writing was the real cause. Kirk also has some differences in him but they emerged because the original character sketch and the early scripts differed from Shatner's energetic portrayal. In Janeway's case the writers simply did not know what to do with her.

I really don't see why it this is so hard to get that women are captured in role conflicts. Take Palin, she wonderfully pretended to be the sexy librarian, the caring mother, the politician and the defender of the nation. She fulfilled all potential roles and fantasies (among them by the way your woman with a gun idea) and that's why she was so popular.

My only argument is that we have to get out of this totally.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:05 AM
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But did he get into the White House via pretending to be the guy outside of the establishment who brings fresh air into Washington and then he ended up with bringing many folks from the Clinton administration back?
My reaction was, well, why buy the actor when you can have the real thing? I think that Clinton would have been the far better choice because she is far less of an actor than Obama.

I can easily picture Obama pretending to be one of the folks around MLK and I can also easily picture him in a role as business executive.

But then again you are far closer to the issue than me so you naturally know more about it. I mainly follow the economic stuff and my impression was that Obama is pure pragmatist who does not have any convictions. First a bit of stimulus, than austerity and now that elections are nearing again a bit of stimulus. Seems like the very opposite of your favourite politician who is far more consistent.
Oh sure, he's full of it.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:15 AM
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Let me be frank, if I were a US citizen I would of course vote for Obama. But I cannot respect a piece of jelly.
I would virtually disagree with all positions of Ron Paul and even view him as political enemy. But I can respect him because he has debatable opinions.

Same over here, in the nineties we had a corrupt chancellor named Kohl and of course I would love to see him in prison. But he had clear pro-Europe convictions and he said that he does not reveal the names of the people who bribed him because he gave them a promise. I might not agree with this but he does not evade the issue, he takes a clear stance. Ironically his "pupil" is now chancellor and like Obama she is a giant piece of jelly.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:31 AM
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It amazes me to this day how many people fell for Obama's act. I mean, it's not just that he won an election. You would have thought it was the second coming the way people were acting about that guy. Amazing how different things look when you're in the big chair and not just making campaign speeches.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:35 AM
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And Paul isn't my favorite politician. There are many aspects of his policies I don't agree with. When I've said that I tend to be libertarian in the past, I tend to fall that way on domestic social issues such as drug policy.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:13 AM
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Sorry, I mistook what you said back then.
My intution tells me that legalizing hard drugs is wrong. But if you analyze the problem you realize that just like legalizing and taxing drugs forbidding them drugs creates artifical scarcity. The difference is that the mob profits under the current regime whereas everybody would gain in a 'legalize and tax' system. This very public income can be partly used to alleviate the negative effects of hard drugs.

Then again this is just the economic analysis of the problem, the arguments of a Buchanan-type conservative against such a libertarian/liberal drugy policy are sound in my opinion.

I feel a bit uneasy with liberalism/libertarianism, with merely thinking economically because of this:

If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then libertarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism. Society in fact requires both individualism and collectivism, both selfishness and altruism, to function.

http://www.theamericanconservative.c.../mar/14/00017/

Sure, it's quite polemic but I think that this type of conservatives have a point. A society isn't merely bound together by explicit, legal rules, the implicit rules are at least as important.



Let me make an example.Sometimes there are quite strange political marriages. Over here we have publicly-financed child care.
Now this sounds socialist, the GDR had such a system. But while it is of course economical non-sense to subsidize household work the goal is to increase the female employment ratio.

So a socialist policy is used for marketization (sounds similar to the bail-out, doesn't it?). Left-liberals play along because it sounds so egalitarian that more women work and conservatives play along because they are market fetishists ... and who is obviously missing in the equation are old-school conservatives who argue for family. I mean, gee, that was my gut reaction to this nonsense. Don't mess with family, children should stay at home at least for the first three years or so.

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Old 09-28-2011, 07:42 AM
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I think the logic is that paid child care should be cheaper than the amount a full-time parent can earn. However, carers have to go through all sorts of training, police checks, insurance etc so that it isn't that cheap at all. Mind you, don't assume that it's so much of a gender issue these days. My friend's wife works full time because she earns more than him. He works part time to keep child care costs down and to spend more time with the children. Obviously, as they get older it becomes easier.

Another problem is diffusion of populations. In the olden days, granny would have carried out child care responsibilities while mum worked. If Granny is now also working or lives 300 miles away, things aren't so simple.

Interestingly recent surveys have shown that young children are happiest when spending time with their parents. Forget earning enough money for that Playstation. Take them for a cheap picnic!
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:47 AM
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Interestingly recent surveys have shown that young children are happiest when spending time with their parents. Forget earning enough money for that Playstation. Take them for a cheap picnic!
Indeed....and although I'm not (nor ever desire to be) a parent, it is sad to see how many use PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo as electronic babysitters.
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Old 09-28-2011, 09:14 AM
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I can't imagine how fu*ked up it must be to grow up today. All kids need are non-hyper-hygenic parents, some nature, a stick and imagination to have a good time.
If I should ever have kids I'd do two things, move into the green and get some Pokemon blood on my hands.
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