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Old 05-02-2011, 09:07 AM
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I hope Obama get's a second term but I doubt this will be the deciding event over whether he does or not.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:44 AM
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It's great Osama's finally dead but I worry about reprisal attacks and whether he will be made a martyr of.

Still for now it's a great time for celebrations.

I hope Obama get's a second term but I doubt this will be the deciding event over whether he does or not.
I don't think "celebration" is the right word. I also found it a little disturbing that Americans where in the streets celebrating.
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There's been no shakeup of the CIA, no change in the military units put in place almost ten years ago and Guantanamo Bay has not been shut down which is where they got a lot of the information(from captured couriers) to accomplish this. Many, many of the Bush/Cheney policies are still in place. I commend Obama for having the balls to order the hit but it's not his policies alone that accomplished this and he's completely lacking in character by not extending any credit to the previous administration. For Obama to take full credit for this he would've had to completely restructure the CIA, change the operating policies of the SEAL/Delta teams operating overseas AND shut down Gitmo. None of which happened.
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I don't think "celebration" is the right word. I also found it a little disturbing that Americans where in the streets celebrating.

Weren't Americans mad at Muslims because there were some Palestinians celebrating in the streets after 9/11?
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There's been no shakeup of the CIA, no change in the military units put in place almost ten years ago and Guantanamo Bay has not been shut down which is where they got a lot of the information(from captured couriers) to accomplish this. Many, many of the Bush/Cheney policies are still in place. I commend Obama for having the balls to order the hit but it's not his policies alone that accomplished this and he's completely lacking in character by not extending any credit to the previous administration. For Obama to take full credit for this he would've had to completely restructure the CIA, change the operating policies of the SEAL/Delta teams operating overseas AND shut down Gitmo. None of which happened.
Exactly!
It's just that the military just happened to get Osama on Obama's watch. There was no great military plan on Osama's part. It just happened.

Same with Bush when Saddam Hussein was captured.

Both events just happened on their respective watches.

We haven't had a great "military leading" president for some time.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:47 AM
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Weren't Americans mad at Muslims because there were some Palestinians celebrating in the streets after 9/11?
Depends if you mean real footage of them 'celebrating' after 9/11 or the stuff that FOX faked up to look like they were 'celebrating' at the time. There probably were people celebrating at the time somewhere anyway................if there weren't then they wouldn't be...........well............the bad guys.

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Either way, celebrations were likely on this happening.

The operation itself has nothing much to do with the respective President's themselves anyway. It's the back office people doing all the gathering, sifting and analysing, a whole host of ground operatives and then the folks who went in and actually carried out the operation.
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It's an operation that appears to have gone back for about four years in terms of careful intelligence analysis and planning so yep, that's a no brainer.

As for Osama being dead............fair enough, I'm not crying for him................but thing's haven't changed to that great a degree yet. There's still a long road ahead and that will go well past whatever term the present President has in office.

Although I did like the reported tweet from someone about Donald Trump demanding to see Osama's death certificate.

SPEAKING OF WHICH....
I just found this last night...

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...5vA12i3kzeOK23
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:58 AM
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SPEAKING OF WHICH....
I just found this last night...

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...5vA12i3kzeOK23
I was reading a little bit about that. Is that event some sort of 'Comedy Roast' equivalent?

Either way, it's hard to make out the Trumpster's face but he does strike me as the sort that can dish it out and can't take it back.
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Depends if you mean real footage of them 'celebrating' after 9/11 or the stuff that FOX faked up to look like they were 'celebrating' at the time. There probably were people celebrating at the time somewhere anyway................if there weren't then they wouldn't be...........well............the bad guys.

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Either way, celebrations were likely on this happening.
Whether the footage after 9/11 was faked or not it was still disturbing to see yesterday's footage from outside the White House and in NYC but unfortunately like you said it was probably inevitable. I just wish people would think a little bit more before they acted because those images from yesterday are just going to fuel the fire on the other side. If the footage from after 9/11 was faked doesn't it make yesterdays footage from outside the White House and in NYC more disturbing?

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The operation itself has nothing much to do with the respective President's themselves anyway. It's the back office people doing all the gathering, sifting and analysing, a whole host of ground operatives and then the folks who went in and actually carried out the operation.
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I was reading a little bit about that. Is that event some sort of 'Comedy Roast' equivalent?

Either way, it's hard to make out the Trumpster's face but he does strike me as the sort that can dish it out and can't take it back.
No that was the Correspondents Dinner.
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