[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Originally Posted by omegaman

When you think about the movie it feels and behaves like an extended movie trailer.
I don't believe the next one will be slower or allow more in-depth character development. There will be surprises (with little backstory or explanation). Essentially the characters will be simply dropped into a new storyline and have heaps of grief dumped on them until they win out. Action will be what the next movie about and I doubt very much that we'll ever see anything in the style of TMP. Maybe a TVH though. J.J does have a terrific sense of humor.

TMP might be my least favorite Trek movie, so that isn't a bad thing, at least for me.

[omegaman]

Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin

TMP might be my least favorite Trek movie, so that isn't a bad thing, at least for me.

Not my favourite either. That's what happens when you try to go too cerebral with trek stories. OK in a TV show, but not a movie. And why it will never happen in any future trek movies.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

I wouldn't even call it a cerebral movie. Hell, what it really was was just a rehashed retelling of "The Changeling".

[omegaman]

Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin

I wouldn't even call it a cerebral movie. Hell, what it really was was just a rehashed retelling of "The Changling".

Exactly. But still a movie designed to make you think.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Originally Posted by omegaman

Exactly. But still a movie designed to make you think.

I think that's what they were going for, but I tend to think it was a swing and a miss in that department.

[JR585]

Originally Posted by I-Am-Zim

Disliked:
Nero and the Tattoomulans

Take that back!

[kevin]

Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin

TMP might be my least favorite Trek movie, so that isn't a bad thing, at least for me.

Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin

I wouldn't even call it a cerebral movie. Hell, what it really was was just a rehashed retelling of "The Changeling".

Ditto to the last part, and although TMP isn't my least favourite film out them all to try and be like it would be (for me) a step backwards.

TMP would probably have been fine (like 'Changeling' which isn't a top episode for me but a decent one at least) if only it (or perhaps GR?) didn't scream 'Please take me as serious and meaningful' from every pore when it really didn't have the heft to pull it off. A 2001 wannabe is still a 2001 wannabe even if it has great visuals but lacks the story.

TVH on the other hand...............

I don't view the last film as an extended trailer though, but I do view it as little more than a well done first act in a potentially larger and continuing story. The key job for the film based on the direction given by Paramount was setting up the pieces and players on the board for future game moves and that's essentially what they managed to do (with some contrivances yes but that's nothing new in Trek) back in 2009.

So, yeah, I expect more action and humour in the sequel to be components of the film, hopefully with the same emotional engagement as the first..............and I would be disappointed if any of those things were lost. As to whether the larger story will have any more substance to it..............I'll see once I find out what the story actually will be and go from there.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Yep, The Voyage Home is a fantastic Trek film which holds up well to this day. I just watched it a few weeks ago and still thoroughly enjoy it.

[starwarsrcks]

well don't think people will agree with everything you have said about Star Trek 2009 I-Am-Zim just letting you know in my opinion the movie was brilliant

[I-Am-Zim]