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Old 03-17-2008, 06:23 AM
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What do you guys think? Is there sexism in Trek? Or does everyone get a "fair shake?"
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:28 AM
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I'm going to assume for a moment we're talking about TOS.

Given how other shows portrayed women in the 1960's, I'd say that if there were instances of sexism on Trek they were fewer than their television contemporaries. Hell, even going back and watching some 70's shows there's rampant sexism.

Television always reflects the times, sure, but Star Trek had female officers that were competent. I think it was ahead of the curve in that respect.
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What part of Trek are we talking about? When it comes to TOS, yes it was full of sexism although it was still a bit ahead of its time by casting a woman as Pike's Number One. But I heard somewhere that this was considered as too avant-garde by the network so they changed Number One to a man. I can't complain since we got Spock because of it but still...

As for the rest of Trek, no I don't see any sexism at all (although maybe there was some in the earlier movies but I can't remember). In fact, I think that Berman and Co. went out of their way to make TNG gender-equal, starting with the switch from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" to "Where No One Has Gone Before". Of course there was the idiocy of turning Seven of Nine and T'Pol into sex objects but I guess that could become a debate onto itself.
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I meant all Treks, my bad.
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See Lady I allways felt TNG had alot of sexism too. DS9 to a lesser degree. Voy until 7 of 9 (as you pointed out.)
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That's OK...I didn't see the other thread. I'd have known if I'd have opened my eyes. LOL
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I don't think so. TNG had plenty of strong females. Admiral Nacheyev (sp?) certainly was Picard's superior. Voyager had Janeway, the first (on screen) female captain, etc.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:11 AM
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On the admiral I agree. But look at Troi, not wearing a uniform. I mean would you feel comfy telling all your bad stuff to soemone in a tight bunny suit??

And Dr. Crusher, she was allways on the verge of breaking down and/or crying in many episodes. Is this the behavior of a seasoned Starfleet officer?

Don't get me started on many of the female guest stars.
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On the admiral I agree. But look at Troi, not wearing a uniform. I mean would you feel comfy telling all your bad stuff to soemone in a tight bunny suit??

And Dr. Crusher, she was allways on the verge of breaking down and/or crying in many episodes. Is this the behavior of a seasoned Starfleet officer?

Don't get me started on many of the female guest stars.
Yeah, but that stuff isn't truly sexism, you know?

Gene wanted Troi's character to seem approachable and not just another Starfleet officer. I guess the line of thought was that if she was out of uniform, it would be easier for the crew to confide and open up to her.

Crusher's infrequent bouts of emotion aren't sexist. In fact, it's a stark comparison to when Crusher seemed a bit stiff.

Female guest stars? OK...perhaps. I guess i'd need some specific examples.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:21 AM
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So you think Troi all "dolled up" like that made a good therapist?

I guess my point is we didn't see the male charaters do the emotinal, crying thing that people in real life do.
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