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Old 03-17-2008, 06:22 AM
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Thumbs down Female Charaters In TOS, Treated Badly?

Hey what do you guys think (remember this only pertains to TOS)?
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:46 AM
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I don't think they were treated badly but they certainly weren't portrayed as equals in relation to the male characters (except for a couple of exceptions, such as T'Pau and the Romulan commander). Women were still very much objectified in certain episodes (can you say "Mudd's Women"?!) but I guess it goes with the times during which TOS was made.
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:51 AM
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Some good points.

Well the story could not have been told without the "objectivcation" of the women, in that one instance.

Even the Romulan Commander was portaryed irracticaly. Your going to tell me that a seasoned Romulan officer is going ot get all "mushy and girly" over a Vulcan she just met?

In alot of cases I felt women were just there (espically guest stars) to be eye/sex candy for Kirk.

Of course, as you pointed out, thsi was pretty standard pricatice for the time.
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I remember seeing Kirk lose his cool to Uhura once, but i think it was in a high stress situation and he quickly realized he made a mistake and you could tell she understood. It might have been "The Corbomite Maneuver", but i'm not postively sure, i just know it did happen. Most of the time, professional women were treated with respect, even admiration, but any scantily clad space dolls and blonde bombshells, not so much. "Mudd's Women" was a glaring example, although the whole point of the episode was to show it's wrong to treat women like objects.
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I never minded when Kirk lost it with Uhura...to me, that meant he treated her as a member of the crew, not a glass sculpture. I remember he did it a couple of times...during Journey to Babel he got on her for not narrowing her beam when she'd confirmed reception within the ship, for instance.

I agree that the Romulan commander seriously lacked command qualities...I mean, come on! I know Spock's sexy, but basically giving him free reign on the ship and promising him a ship of his own to command?? That was weak.

There was also the Lt. in Who Mourns for Adonais....just because she's pretty, McCoy and Kirk assume she'll get married and give up her career.

I'll point out, at the time Star Trek was on the air, I was not allowed to wear pants or shorts to school....dresses and skirts only. And, this was public school so citywide policy. I think it's a mark of how far we've come as a society that we see a show that was on in my life as--in many ways--almost hopelessly sexist.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:58 AM
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Chastising a crew member is one thing, agree totally.

Again, agree with you about the Romulan Commander, and Lt. What's Her Face from "Who Mourns for Adonais."

I rember those sexist days of school myself. It's one thing if a girl or a woman CHOOSES to wear a skirt/dress. Making them is quite another.
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Well yeah, to a certain extent i agree with you Eliza, but you gotta admit, Star Trek was a vast improvement over "LU-CY! You got a lot of splaining to do!" And "One of these days Alice, one of these days POW, right in the kisser!"
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you know...she had alot to do with changing our persepective about what women could do on there own...
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Lucy got to wear pants though!

But, I agree, overall Star Trek showed a better environment than 50s America...
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True. But those mini-skirts....
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