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Old 09-06-2010, 01:59 PM
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Unfortunately I'm not allowed to do that. But Youtube fixed it. They give someone 48 hours to remove it themselves and if they don't then their team look at the complaint. I complained that it had violated my privacy and that of the other pupils. They upheld it. i have told the school about it but whether anything will be done, I'm not sure.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:08 PM
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We do try to make them keep them off and away but the problem with mobiles is that they are so small and with 30 kids in the class it can be difficult to see if they have phones out. We have major problems if we confiscate mobiles. We end up with kids claiming that we are violating their human rights. It's insane!
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:16 PM
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There is no human right to use your selfphone in school. Confiscation of annoying stuff has been pretty common in my school time and it was anything but an authoritarian education.

The little suckers need to learn basic rules of living together but I guess that complaining parents plus indecisive school authorities lead to this kind of school-life.
In the good ol' times they would have all ended up in the gulag.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:44 PM
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Our kids don't know they are living. they spend so much time whining that they have to get a free education, while some kid in Africa would give their right arm for a primary education, never mind a secondary one.

I had a child telling me that another teacher had been racist towards him because the teacher had described him as having "red hair." He obviously had never learned anything about the Martin Luther King Jr. Of course if King had known about the hideous prejudice meted out to people with red hair, I'm sure he would have revised his dream!
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:55 PM
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Wow, now stating facts is racist. I think that a lot of contemporary problems are caused by a wrong conception of tolerance. It just leads to a lack of productive discussion and conflict about real issues, in this case selfphones in the school.
It's tolerance of behaviour which shouldn't be tolerated, disruption of your lesson or violation of your and your students' privacy. There is a form of "violence" and the potential for necessary "counterviolence" is destroyed with the stupid notion of tolerance.

King rarely if ever spoke about tolerance, he fought for more political and economic equity of black people. He would have never expected a racist from the South to tolerate black people.
Or let's say it like this, I could say that I am feminist, that I want women to gain more power and rights ... but tolerating women? No, that would go too far.

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Old 09-06-2010, 09:48 PM
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We do try to make them keep them off and away but the problem with mobiles is that they are so small and with 30 kids in the class it can be difficult to see if they have phones out. We have major problems if we confiscate mobiles. We end up with kids claiming that we are violating their human rights. It's insane!
The beauracracy involved these days just ties everyone's hands. And likely the parents are little use. They probably find it essential that their kids have a mobile phone on them at all times anyway!
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:49 AM
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I'm not sure if I have got the vocation for it some days I have to say, I am growing a very thick skin. I had to complain to Youtube to get a video removed that a pupil had taken of my class. They upheld my complaint and the video has gone. RESULT!

They're always going to try and prove they are smarter than you.
Todays children, their pride has been allowed to flow unchecked. That's what happens when society declaws authority figures. Children are just bundles of ignorance until you pump knowledge into them...

And just like any animal they are what they "eat". So if they take in the wrong knowledge at the wrong time with out the right guidance they come to very skewed and experience limited conclusion.

I've noticed as my cousin grows up (she's almost 2 ) that all children pretty much start out the same. Aria is incredibly perceptive and intelligent. She's walking, talking, an empathizing well before her second birthday. And while I love her, I know it won't last. The influences around her will spoil her. Society will encourage fashion, sex, drugs...

...but for right now, I see incredible possibilities for Aria, She could discover warp drive or find a cure for cancer. She's Amazing. Makes me want a child myself. But the truth is most people can't handle being parents and they engender the worst useless qualities into their development....
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The forum is back up now but I can't seem to be able to log in, it lets me log in then returns to the index page saying that I've not logged in. Anyone got any solutions to this?
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