[chator]

The kid who played Anakin was a punk!

[kevin]

Originally Posted by martok2112

If I have one regret about Ep III.....I just wish they'd've been a bit more creative with James Earl Jones' "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!" when Vader laments the death of Padme. (Maybe add a hint of a beastly roar or something to further add to Vader's fury and tragedy.)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to chuckle when he did that...........although I think the choice of a wailing 'no' was the dialogue mistake there.

Perhaps just a roar of grief/pain/'what have I done' etc would have been better.............then again who can be sure.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

When I saw it in the theater the whole place erupted into laughter at the scene.

[kevin]

I reckon that probably happened a lot............it's a bit of a shame but I think it was the way GL signed off on JEJ's delivery.

Bit pantomime-ish

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Yep, I agree. I get what they were going for, the whole Frankenstein thing but it was a swing and a miss.

[kevin]

Annoying thing is, the whole Vader creation thing right before it had gone so well and then right at the very end.........oops!

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

That and the whole Padme dying because she lost the will to live bit. That was pretty bad too. She just had twins, that's not a reason to live?

[kevin]

Well, yeah.........I'm gonna give it (very, very, very) extreme benefit of the doubt due to things like old couples who die within short time of each other (like, because the surviving one can't live without the deceased etc).

It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond a stretch I realise, but the best I can muster around the fact that she had to die.

I don't see why it could just have been Anakin choking her into a coma, the babies being delivered and then her dying just after the birth without regaining consciousness but GL seemed to think different.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Originally Posted by kevin

Well, yeah.........I'm gonna give it (very, very, very) extreme benefit of the doubt due to things like old couples who die within short time of each other (like, because the surviving one can't live without the deceased etc).

It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond a stretch I realise, but the best I can muster around the fact that she had to die.

I don't see why it could just have been Anakin choking her into a coma, the babies being delivered and then her dying just after the birth without regaining consciousness but GL seemed to think different.

That's exactly how it should have worked IMO. Vader should have killed her, far more powerful. I did like the duality of her death being paired with Anakin's death and rebirth as the helmeted Vader. Had they just not added that whole thing about losing the will to live and simply let her succumb to an injury as a result of the choke it would have worked much ,much better.

[horatio]

OK, there was that she has lost the will to live thing (didn't it come from a medical droid which wouldn't make it very significant) but she also said that she believes that there is still good left in Anakin. So why would she wanna give up if she has still hope in Anakin?
The way I view it is that he killed her, whether it was by choking, by the force or however matters little in my opinion.

Anyway, the very ending of Episode III or the whole idea of this movie, that Anakin gets seduced to the dark side by his love once again (first by the love for his mother, now by the love for his wife) and that he becomes Vader before he is mutilated and needs the suit was much better and more unpredictable storytelling to me than any of the original trilogy movies.

Lucas has said that his Dark Lord was influenced by Tolkien and while this was apparent merely visually in the first trilogy the evil of the Sith was sketched out in the second one: seduction, mutilation, all ideas from Tolkien. There is simply more substance in the second trilogy and for me this outweighs the romantic adventure qualities of the first one.

Originally Posted by chator

The kid who played Anakin was a punk!

Aha, interesting that you know him personally and have these insights into his private life.
Christensen is a fine actor and might have played badly in the two movies ... but it is not like Hamill played on an Academy Award Level either. Actually I find his constant excitement in the role of Luke quite annoying.