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Old 02-09-2010, 10:14 AM
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Glad it's not just me!

Although I do like the ring ship as well. Maybe it's an early Vulcan ship that was given to Humans to get them started before they started building their own ships (like the NX-01) and repainted in white.

Isn't there fan spec that's how humans got started in space travel?
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:21 AM
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Glad it's not just me!

Although I do like the ring ship as well. Maybe it's an early Vulcan ship that was given to Humans to get them started before they started building their own ships (like the NX-01) and repainted in white.

Isn't there fan spec that's how humans got started in space travel?
Honestly, I've never really seen a whole lot of fan spec about it...although there may have been a website with some info, but sadly, I don't know the URL at the moment.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:26 AM
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Honestly, I've never really seen a whole lot of fan spec about it...although there may have been a website with some info, but sadly, I don't know the URL at the moment.
It might be rattling around Memory Alpha somewhere - I've read something, somewhere on the idea.

Not important though!
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:28 AM
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It might be rattling around Memory Alpha somewhere - I've read something, somewhere on the idea.

Not important though!
Yeah, a lot of the info on it comes from the formerly canon Spaceflight Chronology from the 80s.
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It was an Earth Starfleet starship names Enterprise whereas the ones who hang in the D's observation lounge were Federation Starfleet starship named Enterprise. Issue solved.
And aircraft carriers ;P - we just left the UESPA ships out, right?
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:17 PM
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Hm. To your eyes. I was intrigued by the Declaration class starliner when I fairly 'devoured' the Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology thirty years ago. Still have that book which, BTW, is chuck full of FNU class ships that make the Declaration class ship a thing of GREAT elegence and beauty in comparison.

(FNU = effin' ugly!)

I loved that book! Yes, a lot of the ships were AFU (all f_ up) but it did try to put some order to the history of Trek.

The ringed ship doesn't phase me much but I do think that the NX-01 refit makes chronological sense.
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I loved that book! Yes, a lot of the ships were AFU (all f_ up) but it did try to put some order to the history of Trek.

The ringed ship doesn't phase me much but I do think that the NX-01 refit makes chronological sense.
Agreed!
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This is neato. Clicky
That is neato!
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And aircraft carriers ;P - we just left the UESPA ships out, right?
Well even the carrier portion is incomplete. There are two carriers to have carried that name. In TNG, the nuclear powered Enterprise CVN-65 is displayed. However it lacks the World War 2 carrier, CV-6, which is arguably the most historic of the two. So go figure.

In TMP however, the opposite is true. The pictures on the recreation deck show the CV-6, but CVN-65 is absent.

The display in the TNG observation lounge has less to do with showing a complete history of the name, Enterprise, but more to do with showing that the name has a long history. However even there, the observation lounge display falls extremely short. It is arguably complete in terms of Federation ships to carry the name, however prior to the founding of the Federation, the display is extremely lacking as the name goes back well beyond that of both carriers.

The drawing in Archer's ready room of the twin masted ship does the name a bit more justice as does the display on the TMP rec deck which also shows a sailing ship. However, there are at least two such ships that I'm aware to carry the name and fit that description, with a possible third. There is also a fourth sailing ship to carry the name however that one is three masted. All those vessels served in the American Navy (US or Continental), and the earliest also has the distinction of being the very first ship commissioned in the American Navy. Also let's not forget that the name also has a long tradition in the Royal Navy. The light-cruiser, HMS Enterprise, took part in the bombardment of Normandy on June 6, 1944.
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