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Old 01-27-2010, 02:37 AM
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Question Earth is enlightend, but who will welcome the Vulcans?

Certainly not Klingons.
Romulans? With their superiority complex, they would only subjugate and persecute the refugees.
What perils will the Vulcans face as they try to rebuild on a new world?
It could be natural (like environmental, flora or fauna) or by external forces. It could be political or religious.

What's your take? What's your speculation?

Those that have seen Avatar may have special insight, IMO. I have yet to see the film.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:06 AM
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The Romulans would welcome them with open arms, the Empire always needs new slaves.

I think that a story which explores the aftermatch of the destruction of Vulcan would be great. Will their way of life change, will the blame all Romulans for Nero's crime and "go Romulan" on the Romulans? Or will they (or rather significant parts of the Vulcan population) blame the 'weak' Federation, demand higher military priorities in the UFP, intend to get out of the UFP and approach the 'strong' Romulans?

Great potential for stories, but I think that TV would be the more appropriate format. It'd still be nice if they mention some Vulcan developments in the background of the twelfth Trek movie.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:27 AM
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One idea might be that the Vulcans inadvertently establish their colony on another race's sacred ground.

This provides the opportunity for an alien culture to be discovered, conflict, and some very strong moral conflict.

- These ancient ruins on the planet, what secrets do they hold?
- Why are the Vulcans being attacked, and by whom?

I could definately see the Enterprise being called to help, and being drawn into the conflict between the Vulcan tresspassers and the mysterious aliens claiming to own the planet.

Not to mention the possibility for the aliens to be hiding something in those ancient ruins.

Just some idle thoughts ...
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:05 AM
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I would suspect that wherever the planet is that Spock has identified as being suitable for the new Vulcan Colony would not likely be far out from the Federation's secure reach initially.

They aren't going to take the risk of going too far out with a much reduced population - it would be bad security and the Federation still needs the Vulcans and their strengths within it.

Given that, it would seem unlikely that Spock would have picked a planet which already had a population on it, and were it to be within the safer borders of the Federation then he would likely know if another race had a claim on it.

It wouldn't be impossible for it to have a 'secret' but presummably the search process would have weeded out as many likely threats as possible.

However, the idea of needing Romulan brethren to fill out the depleted gene pool to help aid survival of the species is indeed a fascinating one. While I doubt it would form the backbone of a new story - on balance I would prefer something based around exploration with a couple of links to the previous film to assist in establishing AU canon and continuity - it may get a mention.
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The Romulans would welcome them with open arms, the Empire always needs new slaves.

I think that a story which explores the aftermatch of the destruction of Vulcan would be great. Will their way of life change, will the blame all Romulans for Nero's crime and "go Romulan" on the Romulans? Or will they (or rather significant parts of the Vulcan population) blame the 'weak' Federation, demand higher military priorities in the UFP, intend to get out of the UFP and approach the 'strong' Romulans?

Great potential for stories, but I think that TV would be the more appropriate format. It'd still be nice if they mention some Vulcan developments in the background of the twelfth Trek movie.
I completely agree, and that's what I want the sequel to be about
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It must be a porn movie, because they have to rebuild their culture
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I think they'll just find some uninhabited world within the Federation myself.

My own take on it is that no matter how many member planets are in the Federation, the actual number of total planets will be several times greater. As a result, there will always be some worlds that will be either very underpopulated or perhaps even mostly uninhabited. It's sort of like how there are countries with crowded major cities, but also still have townships with populations of only a few hundred out in the boonies or even large unincorporated areas with no townships at all because they haven't been developed yet. I would also imagine that there are some worlds within the Federation that are similar.
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Were there other planets of notability in the Vulcan solar system? Would the home-world being destroyed affect the other planets much in the same way as CetAlph5? I suppose that the possibility of another in the same solar system was ruled out?
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One idea might be that the Vulcans inadvertently establish their colony on another race's sacred ground.

This provides the opportunity for an alien culture to be discovered, conflict, and some very strong moral conflict.

- These ancient ruins on the planet, what secrets do they hold?
- Why are the Vulcans being attacked, and by whom?

I could definately see the Enterprise being called to help, and being drawn into the conflict between the Vulcan trespassers and the mysterious aliens claiming to own the planet.

Not to mention the possibility for the aliens to be hiding something in those ancient ruins.

Just some idle thoughts ...

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I do think that any story about the Vulcan colony should be left in the background for the next movie, but build in some spoilers about some developing situations or "finds" on the new planet, archeological for instance, that would create a basis for a "discovery" in the next movie (STXIII) that could drive a variety of scenarios from new "aliens" to a fight with Klingons. For instance: After the Vulcans start settling their new planet, they find evidence of an ancient, previous inhabitance that was technologically superior to the Federation, Klingons, and Romulians. A race/battle to claim the technical knowledge ensues...
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I hope not another thing that Archer went through with the Vulcan and Andorians
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