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Old 01-11-2010, 11:20 AM
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Some people hated the script and the authors, but this tells another story
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Star Trek has picked up another guild award nomination today, and it is a big one. Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman have been nominated by the Writer’s Guild of Amercca for Best Adapted Screenplay.
http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/11/star...eenplay-award/
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:16 PM
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I'm sure Saquist will be pleased :P
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Some people hated the script and the authors, but this tells another story


http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/11/star...eenplay-award/
This doesn't prove that it was a good script, just that Hollywood rewards those who serve it well.

Honestly, i don't know how the WGA could nominate such a poorly written script when compared to TOS television episodes. The plot was so implausible, even basic cause/effect relationships were not observed. The characters were not at all like the characters from TOS tv series, even the villian's motivations and actions were so out of synch as to be laughable. And the WGA acknowledges this mess as a Best of the year? I'm not a professional writer, but i know a good story from a bad one, why doesn't the WGA?

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Old 01-11-2010, 02:33 PM
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Honestly, i don't know how the WGA could nominate such a poorly written script when compared to TOS television episodes.
Here's a little secret.... they don't feel it was poorly written.

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The plot was so implausible, even basic cause/effect relationships were not observed. The characters were not at all like the characters from TOS tv series, even the villian's motivations and actions were so out of synch as to be laughable.
WGA disagrees. So what now?

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And the WGA acknowledges this mess as a Best of the year?
Refer to the first secret.

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I'm not a professional writer, but i know a good story from a bad one,
Correction: You know what you think is a good story from a bad one, just as the WGA did.

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why doesn't the WGA?
Because they don't base their qualifications on what you personally think of a film. Why would they?
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:48 PM
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"We are the Writers Guild of America, West (WGAW), a labor union composed of the thousands of writers who write the content for television shows, movies, news programs, documentaries, animation, and Internet and mobile phones (new media) that keep audiences constantly entertained and informed."
http://www.wga.org/

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A professional editor can spot quality work as well as poor work a mile away. Those in the trade know what qualifies as good work and will bestow the honor on those they deem worthy of it--this in spite of what fanboy may think of it.

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Congratulations, Mr. Orci and Mr. Kurtzman! You deserve the honor!

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Here's a little secret.... they don't feel it was poorly written.

WGA disagrees. So what now?

Refer to the first secret.

Correction: You know what you think is a good story from a bad one, just as the WGA did.

Because they don't base their qualifications on what you personally think of a film. Why would they?
Wow, you're trying really hard to fight back at everything I say. You need to find a new hobbie.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:57 PM
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Of course a Hollywood award doesn't validate any kind of script as such but if we want to yak about implausible scripts then I wouldn't automatically single out TOS as some sort of bastion of complete sense either.
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I'm willing to acknowledge the PGA nomination and Giachino's nomination for score, as well as the Visual Effects nomination are all deserved, I don't think the movie is completely lacking in quality, but for Best Adapted screenplay? I just cann't go along with the Writer's Guild on that one.
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Wow, you're trying really hard to fight back at everything I say.
Not a lot of effort really.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:26 AM
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I'm willing to acknowledge the PGA nomination and Giachino's nomination for score, as well as the Visual Effects nomination are all deserved, I don't think the movie is completely lacking in quality, but for Best Adapted screenplay? I just cann't go along with the Writer's Guild on that one.

That's okay. Not everyone digs Elvis. Run D.M.C. is not everyone's cup of tea. But both are recognized by their industry as great artists. The nomination/award recognizes the artist's work that "stands apart" from all others in the year considered by those who are actually in the industry. It's just happenstance that the "convergence" of both the motion picture industry and the fans as a whole are in agreement, quantifying the film as a "hit". Not everyone can agree to everything, but this is a big deal--being recognized by ones peers as producing something wonderfully noteworthy. To that end, even if a viewer does not agree with the result, one can politely applaud the achievement.

I, being one that is in total agreement with the nomination (taking the premise of this "crew" meeting for the first time from a tale first told in the 1960's--hence "adapted screenplay") am giving it more than polite applause. It can't be everything to everyone, but I happen to really dig it.
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