[That Metal Beastie]

For good or for ill-

STAR TREK LIVES!!!!!

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Commodore

It seems whenever there's a new Star Trek series or movie, the question "Is Star Trek dead?" is inevitably asked.

Star Trek is held to a ridiculous standard by fans, IMO. Trek was never meant to be anything more than an space action/adventure series. It occasionally dealt with allegory and morality, yes, but more often than not it was about people in funny makeup, women in very tight outfits, and stuff being blown up. For every profound moment in Star Trek, there are two or more that aren't so profound. It can be fine wine one moment and then Kool-aid the next. And it's always been that way, and it should always be that way, IMO.

I think there is a sentiment by many fans that "This Is Star Trek" or "That Isn't Star Trek." Some people think that Star Trek XI represents a dumbing down of the franchise, yet forget (or are unaware) of what Star Trek really is...and it ain't about an optimistic future or about space exploration.

Objectively, Star Trek is simply an entertainment franchise. It exists in different forms and in different incarnations, and has inevitably catered to different audiences. Not every version of Trek is going to please everyone, but then I actually believe that it is totally impossible for anything to please everyone anyway.

Well told!!!

It is as I've always said: "Star Trek has something for everyone". It doesn't always have everything for everyone all of the time, but when it does, it's wonderous. And this has been the case since the first episode of the original Trek.

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by That Metal Beastie

For good or for ill-

STAR TREK LIVES!!!!!

So Say We Al----ooops...wrong franchise.

[That Metal Beastie]

Originally Posted by martok2112

So Say We Al----ooops...wrong franchise.

[Saquist]

Originally Posted by starwarsrcks

Is it wrong to like Trek XI

Most people like fun and the movie is definitely fun.

[Howlin' Wolf]

Originally Posted by chator

Go watch some old episodes of TOS for comparision. You may not like them, but there is a difference in tone, style and substance that should be obvious.

For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTfiRccYIA

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Howlin' Wolf

For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTfiRccYIA

LMAO!!!

[starwarsrcks]

That was a very lame moment in Plato's Stepchildren very silly

[horatio]

Trek has been said to be dead and back again so often, it has to be a zombie franchise now.
Seriously, I don't think it has ever been dead. It has been in a long hibernation after TOS was cancelled and in a short after ENT was cancelled, but that's it. It always awoke from its sleep and naturally it needs some time to become fully conscious again.

[I-Am-Zim]

Star Trek is not dead. STXI made sure of that. People love the new vision of Star Trek. However, TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and all the Star Trek movies are dead. Or at least rendered moot by this new re-imagining. If this new Trek franchise really takes off - and that will be determined by whether or not the next movie is more than just all flash and no substance - the old Trek will be forgotten by all but the most dedicated fans. Soon there will be dual conventions. One for Star Trek and one for NuTrek. But this subject has been beaten to death. One side will never convince the other that they are right. So around it will go.