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Old 01-23-2010, 01:32 AM
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Oh come on. 'real deal' my a$$.
Then why did you just repeat what I just said? So yeah, you bet your a$$ it was real deal then.
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:48 AM
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I'll admit that Conan got off to a rough start (I still prefer him on Late Night and Jay on the Tonight Show, just as it was), but I was actually enjoying Conan quite a bit more near the end. He was just about to get back in the groove IMO. Look forward to seeing what he does on FOX (or wherever he ends up). As for Leno, I'll be watching him just like I did 7 months ago.
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Oh come on. 'real deal' my a$$.

Basically, Leno was #1. NBC execs want to have Obrien take over the Tonight Show. They push Leno out and give Obrien the show.

He takes it and NBC offer Leno another primetime show. He takes it and ratings suck. The Tonight Show's rating sink, as they did when Leno took over after Carson. It took Leno a full two years to get the Tonight Show back to a shadow of what it was before. Once Leno did so he held that status 'til this day. Then NBC kick him off and bring in Obrien and history repeats itself. 7 months and that's enough. Tonight Show is in the tank so axe Obrien and bring back in Leno.

It's not Leno or Obrien that are the problem. It's NBC, they're frakin' idiots but that's just my opinion. They ruin two great shows.

But you're right Commodore, the whole thing is silly.

I remember Jay retiring not being pushed out.
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I remember Jay retiring not being pushed out.
Yeah, me too...and yet, that may not have been the real story either.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:21 AM
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Then why did you just repeat what I just said? So yeah, you bet your a$$ it was real deal then.
What you quoted was sarcasm (guess I should've used a smilie). It was also in reference to this...

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O'Brien fans, however, immediately elevated Leno above Osama Bin Laden and launched a vicious internet war against him, attacking him at every opportunity while placing O'Brien just shy of sainthood.
It's not Leno or Conan, it's like you said, it was business, stupid business but still business.
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I remember Jay retiring not being pushed out.
About a week ago on his show, he said he was asked to step aside for Conan. He said he didn't want to but went with it anyway.
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The issue wasn't Conan's ratings. This started when local NBC affiliates began complaining that Leno's 10:00 show due to low ratings was hurting their 11:00 news programs as Leno's show was failing as a lead in.
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What you quoted was sarcasm (guess I should've used a smilie). It was also in reference to this...
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O'Brien fans, however, immediately elevated Leno above Osama Bin Laden and launched a vicious internet war against him, attacking him at every opportunity while placing O'Brien just shy of sainthood.
It's not Leno or Conan, it's like you said, it was business, stupid business but still business.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people who are hating on Leno are either unaware of this or simply don't care. I've gone to several websites that have featured discussions on the whole Leno-O'Brien debacle and [INSERT VULGARITY HERE] Leno is generally blamed as being responsible for the whole thing, when that isn't what happened at all.
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