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Old 01-01-2010, 01:30 PM
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For me, Kirk's instant promotion is probably the least credible part of the film.
Same here. Just doesn't quite work for me, but I can live with it.
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:33 PM
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I can too, it's not a fatal flaw.
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Perhaps, the best way I can put it is that NuTrek is just a great movie-going experience...the likes of which I had not experienced previously.

Despite it's problems, I enjoy it. I can say that for almost all of the previous movies as well, but they never quite had the feel of this new one.
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And, once again, we don't know it was cloaked. Since we are only using what was actually seen in the movie, there is nothing in the movie to suggest that the Narada even had a cloaking device. Nor was there anything in the movie to suggest that the Narada was Borg-modified. In fact, Nero actually says to Pike, and I quote: "In my time, where I come from, this is a simple mining vessel." Not a "highly modified" mining vessel. A simple mining vessel. Had the deleted scenes with the Klingon interrogation been included, it would have given at least a little explanation for where the heck they were for 25 years. According to the movie, all they did was wait that whole time. Anyway, Kevin has a point. The more we try to explain this, the deeper the hole gets. If the movie is taken on its own merits, then that 25 year gap is a gigantic hole. The deleted scenes and Countdown comics can't be used as explanations since the were not part of the movie and none of that was seen on screen. Therefore, according to the casual moviegoer, that stuff never happened and is completely irrelevent to the movie. So lets just say that Nero and his cronies just tiptoed through the galactic tulips for 25 years until Spock came through the temporal causality/wormhole/black hole/thingie. There ya go.
Oh yeah, we never saw anyone use the toilets! There is no on-screen proof they even have toilets on any of the ships we've seen! And the Enterprise only has 5 decks, because we didn't see the other decks! None of that was in the movie! ...need I go on?
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Nero does say it's a simple mining vessel.
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God, how I wish Countdown was canon!
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God, how I wish Countdown was canon!
What for? It confuses things even more.
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Old 01-01-2010, 02:09 PM
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In Zim's case, that would probably be even more true...

I take it back.
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Countdown was nice for what it was, but much like Nero and the Romulan empire it stands apart.
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Countdown was nice for what it was, but much like Nero and the Romulan empire it stands apart.
Indeed, but I'm gonna include it in my view of things until all of it's events are retconned.
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