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Old 11-20-2009, 06:22 AM
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:35 AM
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:58 AM
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WRONG! So you would deny us all ENTERPRISE and NEMESIS?
Nemesis - absolutely!!! Chopping it gets my vote!

They can take Insurrection and VOY as well.

ENT, I'll give the benefit of the doubt because I stopped watching it after season 2 mostly.

But then, that just highlights what H mentioned - that we all like different shows etc for different reasons, and so all of it has some value because there are people who enjoy them.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:12 AM
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One can throw stones at Berman for VOY and ENT (the shows he influenced stronger than TNG or DS9), one can light the pyre for NEM ... but then you also gotta praise him for FC, for all of TNG and for the creation of DS9 (assuming this corresponds to one's preferences).
That's all I am asking for, a view which considers all aspects.

It's like with the third season of TOS, you can neither blame The Rodd for leaving the show nor can you just blame the absence of The Rodd for the overall poor quality.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM
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Yeah, he did some good, he did some bad.
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Nemesis - absolutely!!! Chopping it gets my vote!

They can take Insurrection and VOY as well.

ENT, I'll give the benefit of the doubt because I stopped watching it after season 2 mostly.

But then, that just highlights what H mentioned - that we all like different shows etc for different reasons, and so all of it has some value because there are people who enjoy them.
I'm sorry Kev, but you cann't violate the temporal accord and remove both Insurrection and Nemesis, but have ENTERPRISE untouched!
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:49 AM
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I'm sorry Kev, but you cann't violate the temporal accord and remove both Insurrection and Nemesis, but have ENTERPRISE untouched!
Oh very well, take ENT as well!

I've lived this long without it so it's clearly not required.
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One can throw stones at Berman for VOY and ENT (the shows he influenced stronger than TNG or DS9), one can light the pyre for NEM ... but then you also gotta praise him for FC, for all of TNG and for the creation of DS9 (assuming this corresponds to one's preferences).
That's all I am asking for, a view which considers all aspects.
Your request is denied.

I have never trusted Berman and I never will. I've never been able to forgive him for the death of my son--no, wait, that's somebody's else log entry, um, help? Rats!
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Oh very well, take ENT as well!

I've lived this long without it so it's clearly not required.
If you get rid of NEMESIS, Nero as the villan in ST09 disappears as well, since he was based on Shinzon.
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Your request is denied.

I have never trusted Berman and I never will. I've never been able to forgive him for the death of my son--no, wait, that's somebody's else log entry, um, help? Rats!
1987-2005, must be quite an evil guy who has tortured Trek to death over such a long period. Let's resurrect Roddenberry, he just needed two years for the killing job, much more efficient.
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