Should they have replaced Kes with Seven? - Page 3

jla1987 · #21 11-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Jennifer Lien is a very beautiful woman indeed, as is Jeri Ryan. Both beautiful in different ways. Lien had a sexiness to her voice IMO, while Seven was too Borg (although that was necessary for her character).

horatio · #22 11-17-2009, 12:55 PM

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If they had not added Seven in place of Kes, the show probably would have been canceled (as has been said many times before).

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I agree with your assessment. I think the Doctor also had too many blunt, direct-in-you-face-like episodes as well, especially after Kes' departure. Led to the stagnation of the series IMO.

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Would have been interesting to see what may have happened if Kes had stayed on rather than Seven, the show definitely needed something at that point though, and Seven did fit the bill.

Precisely, the show needed a change at that moment and it worked in some ways but also made it lame in a different way.

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Well, i guess you're right about the T&A male fantasy thing. But i agree with Horatio that she brought soul to the show. She was the most relateable of the cast. She had the sense of wonder and awe of a child, the eagerness to learn and contribute of the student, the heart and maturnal instinct of a young girl. Seven didn't have any of this, Ryan played Seven like a female Vulcan.

The Borg queen, Seven, T'Pol ... they really went for the cold sexiness or shall I even say dominatrix type.

Roysten · #23 11-17-2009, 01:28 PM

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The Borg queen, Seven, T'Pol ... they really went for the cold sexiness or shall I even say dominatrix type.

Makes you wonder what Berman and Braga are into making such characters!

janeway72 · #24 11-17-2009, 03:03 PM

That was pretty much what I was going to say but my computer wasn't working properly. They obviously went off the idea of the school marm after Season2/3 of Voyager. I bet those Janeway buns of steel was the same hairdos as their Maths teacher at school.

chator · #25 11-29-2009, 10:53 PM

I'm not buying into this "they needed someone to stand-up to Janeway" argument, or they needed someone who could bring out the motherly qualities of Janeway. Earlier in the series, it was B'elana who "stood up to Janeway, " and whom Janeway saw as a younger version of herself. Go watch the episode "Parallax," from Season one. This leaves me to conclude that Seven only added sex appeal, and served to allow more Borg stories to be created, in all other respects she weakened the show by taking away potential stories from other members of the crew.