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Old 12-23-2009, 03:41 AM
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My favourite Trek movies are First Contact and The Undiscovered Country
A hearty "me too" to that - my favourite Trek films from their respective 'eras'.

My top 5 would probably be completed by Wrath Of Khan (well, you just can't go wrong with that one, can you?), the new film, and Generations. Yeah, I know that one's not popular, but despite a few rather 'convenient' scenes (the convoluted way that the Enterprise is compromised seems totally tacked onto the story, for starters), there's just too much about it that I love:

- The 'loss' of Kirk in the opening segment;
- Picard's loss and subsequent coming to terms - beautifully acted by Stewart. The scene where Troi finally draws him out has me in bits every time;
- Malcolm McDowell's Soran - a thoroughly believable villain capable of extreme violence;
- Data: "Yes! I hate this! More, please...";
- A touch more back story for Guinan;
- The Picard/Data 'moment' in Stellar Cartography;
- Kirk's moment in his ranch kitchen;
- Data: "Ohhhhhhhhh... ****...";
- The crash on Veridian III;
- Kirk's death - unlike many I think it's only right that he didn't go out in a blaze of glory. Like the best officers, he did what he knew to be right without making a fuss or a huge drama out it all, happy to die knowing that he had once again "made a difference";
- Riker: "Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to live forever."

I could go on, but I expect there'll be an angry Kirk fan along any moment to say that Generations was a pool of crap and that it betrayed Kirk's character, etc, etc...
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:51 AM
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Nah, Shatner crapped on the character by consenting to film what was written!!

That said, his death in the film has never bothered me in the least. While in the larger scheme it may have been better to leave his final days open for each fan to formulate their own final act for him, I personally liked the quite clear reminder that he was, at the end of the day, a mortal man.

Despite all he did, and he did still die saving a race, he was human.

Where things go wrong IMO, is where certain parties (aka Shatner himself) churn out crappy resurrection books and try to make him live (almost) forever.

It's unhealthy.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:51 AM
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Nah, Shatner crapped on the character by consenting to film what was written!!
Heh - oh, but nothing is ever The Shat's fault!

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That said, his death in the film has never bothered me in the least. While in the larger scheme it may have been better to leave his final days open for each fan to formulate their own final act for him, I personally liked the quite clear reminder that he was, at the end of the day, a mortal man.

Despite all he did, and he did still die saving a race, he was human.

Where things go wrong IMO, is where certain parties (aka Shatner himself) churn out crappy resurrection books and try to make him live (almost) forever.

It's unhealthy.
A hearty "amen" to all of that. This insistence from some quarters (including The Shat himself) that Kirk is in some sense superhuman just cheapens the character and his choices. Generations - more than any film since Khan or possibly Search For Spock - did a very great deal to 'humanise' this character that had been virtually deified. A large percentage of the criticism levelled at Generations is related to the film's treatment of Kirk, and I wonder if that's a polarising factor.

Generations certainly has its problems, but for me the way it treated Kirk's character was most definitely not one of them. Too many people seemed to want Kirk to go out in a huge blaze of phaser fire, but for me the almost understated way it was approached was what made it work so very well.
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Kirk was one of my childhood heroes, and I'm glad he got killed off....to echo other sentiments here, it showed that he was human and mortal.
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Bring Back Kirk!






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Old 12-24-2009, 08:03 AM
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Heh - oh, but nothing is ever The Shat's fault!
Oops, was I not supposed to say that!
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Kirk was one of my childhood heroes, and I'm glad he got killed off....to echo other sentiments here, it showed that he was human and mortal.
That's a good point, and he did die in a dignified way doing what he believed in, making that difference. Would just take the p**s if he persisted forever and Star Trek XV involved the Shat with a zimmmer frame travelling back in time to stop Khan conquering the universe.

Is good that he ended in such a way that we can remember him well.
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Well I have more than one favorite and they are:

Star Trek (2009)
Star Trek The Voyage Home
Star Trek The Search For Spock
Star Trek The Wrath Of Khan
Star Trek Generations

Okay so I have more than one favorite but I just love all 11 movies, but the ones I listed is the ones I love the best. My most favorite movie of the ones I listed, is the new movie. I'm not sure what it is about it I just love it, after the first time I seen in thaters I was hooked, it actually replaced my old favorite which was Generations and Nemies. I still love those movies and still are my favorites but are no longer the top of my list.
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Like most fans, I was very happy with the new movie, but the original 6 with Shatner will always be the best to me.
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Considering the number of people on this site it wouldn't surprise me if every film was favourited by at least one person. Would be interesting though if there was someone out there whose favourite trek films went in the order sequentially 1 - 11, or from 11-1, just a thought. Anyone reading this fit that category?
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