[Gary Seven]

Meanwhile, falling further behind in last place.

[vuedoc]

LOL, I loved that series just for the campness. In fact, I even figured out how to use it to help me teach interns and residents in the hospital about abnormal electircal pathways in the heart... but I can't really do that anymore because none of them nowadays have ever seen the show (or heard of it for that matter).

My friends and I used to try to come up with elaborate ways of having the villians kill BM & R in the style of the old show. If I can ever get my spoiler function to work, I'll post the winning entry (cause it's a little to gross for general viewing).

[Admiral Archer]

In order, these are my favorites:

Batman 1989
Batman Returns
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Forever
Batman: Subzero
Batman Begins

I haven't seen either Batman & Robin or the 60's Batman all the way through, so I can't judge them for myself.

[radoskal]

Originally Posted by Admiral Archer

In order, these are my favorites:

Batman 1989
Batman Returns
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Forever
Batman: Subzero
Batman Begins

I haven't seen either Batman & Robin or the 60's Batman all the way through, so I can't judge them for myself.

Any reason why you put Begins at the bottom of the totem pole?

[Admiral Archer]

TBH, I loved Begins as a regular ho-hum action flick, but as a Batman film, IMO it sucked horribly. The test of a real Batman film to me is that it screams BATMAN! at you at the top of its lungs. Begins was just a really awesome action film, like Die Hard, only with a guy dressed up like a bat. That doesn't make it a necessarily good Batman film. Plus, everyone goes on about how close to the comics begins was. When did Batman drive a tank in the comics? I just really didn't like Begins as a Batman film. Hopefully Dark Knight will surpass it's predecessor, and I'm optimistic that it will.

[Zardoz]

Gotta love Adam West!

[Tiberius1964]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

Gotta love Adam West!

Oh, god...the dance scene...oh god...I remember that...

Originally Posted by Admiral Archer

TBH, I loved Begins as a regular ho-hum action flick, but as a Batman film, IMO it sucked horribly. The test of a real Batman film to me is that it screams BATMAN! at you at the top of its lungs. Begins was just a really awesome action film, like Die Hard, only with a guy dressed up like a bat. That doesn't make it a necessarily good Batman film. Plus, everyone goes on about how close to the comics begins was. When did Batman drive a tank in the comics? I just really didn't like Begins as a Batman film. Hopefully Dark Knight will surpass it's predecessor, and I'm optimistic that it will.

So if you don't mind my asking, Admiral, in what way does Begins not scream BATMAN! I'm not challenging, I'm just curious...

I suppose it comes down to what your image of Batman is. I have a niece, 20 years old, whose definitive Batman is Adam West. She doesn't like TAS or Bale much. For her, Adam West is Batman. So I guess I have to ask how Begins fails to match your idea of Batman...

Have fun!

[Admiral Archer]

Batman to me is the dark, gothic art-deco style of the Burton-era films, and the classic animated series of the early 1990's. The cyber-techno style of Begins was just too realistic. Batman has to have some sort of unbelievable element that makes his world totally different from ours. Gotham is not just a redress of Chicago, it is it's own dark and hellish universe, with it's own laws of physics. THAT is why I didn't like Begins. It was TOO realistic.

[radoskal]

Originally Posted by Admiral Archer

Batman to me is the dark, gothic art-deco style of the Burton-era films, and the classic animated series of the early 1990's. The cyber-techno style of Begins was just too realistic. Batman has to have some sort of unbelievable element that makes his world totally different from ours. Gotham is not just a redress of Chicago, it is it's own dark and hellish universe, with it's own laws of physics. THAT is why I didn't like Begins. It was TOO realistic.

See to me the dark and gothy elements of Batman which I too love, were very much represented in Begins...I mean come on one of the main vilains was THE SCARECROW....an incarnation of the very dark, basic fears that Batman uses to cow the criminal element. Gotham City was beautifully dark. So I guess I don't see how Begins was any less Dark than the Burton films. As for realism, personally its something I've wanted out of the Super Hero Genre for a long time, (what's the point of watching a movie if you know that Batman can just scale a wall or dive off a 30 story building with nothing happening to him. (That's why I love Batman so much over lets say superman or any other hero with powers) For Batman the danger is real, almost palpable but he takes the risk anyway, and the more realistic the danger the more on the edge of my seat I am.