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Old 05-21-2008, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunny1 View Post
I make my living as a multi-discipline freelancer; one of these disciplines is writing. As a writer, I take a great interest in how people speak; related, but not necessarily directly connected, how they tend to write, as well.

Just as an example, said example chosen because of your background, (as so far as you have told me...)

The originating 'S' sound simply does not occur in Spanish-speaking cultures. While fairly common under English-language grammatical rules, it JUST DOES NOT occur in (what we, in English, call) 'Spanish'.

(This is a digression, but a related one: English is TERRIBLE for 'renaming' even the defining words for things. English says 'Germany' for 'Deutschland', 'Spain' for 'España', etc.)

Hence, even the most proficient English-speaking people of Hispanic backgrounds tend to 'hiss' initial 'S' sounds. (i.e.; 'Yes, I speak fluent eSpanish...' Though it might be muted, the softened 'S' is used rather than the Anglo hard 'S'...)

(Again, related - in 'German' - 'Deutsch' - the 'Double-U' sound does not occur. Though that letter appears, it is pronounced as English pronounces the letter 'v'. 'Wienerschnitzel' is pronounced "Vyner'zhnit'l".)

Both Spanish and French are 'Romance Languages' - a shared common origin in Latin. As I mentioned, I know many French-Canadians whose speech-rhythm is similar to yours; THAT is why I asked...

I speak both language with out an accent, but my writing skill have always given me trouble
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:42 AM
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During the Vietnam War, the U.S. forces developed a 'double talk' for radio messages - though technically in English, they used a certain vernacular specific to the Americas that even an English-speaking North Vietnamese would have problems with.

(This is one of the better example that explains my interest...)

It didn't matter how well-trained an 'enemy' radio-operator was - if you threw some slang around, an American would get it right away, a person who had learned English as a second language would be slow in getting it, if the got it at all.

For example: "Red Sox to Yankee Lead: Switching to Whitehouse, drop a buck and quarter.." would be a common anti-'spoofing' radio protocol to get rid of NVA 'eavesdroppers'. An American serviceman, mired as he was in American culture, would know that the White House is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue; dropping 'a buck and a quarter' meant to subtract 125: almost as fast as the call went out, American RTOs (Radio-Telephone Operators - radiomen) would switch to frequency 147.5 FM. Those not familiar with American culture and slang would take longer... and probably tune in to either dead air, or more slang designed to confuse non-native 'English' speaking RTOs....

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Old 05-21-2008, 02:59 AM
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Huh, it appears that I'm alone

I'm from Serbia, South-Eastern Europe. A beautiful place to live in!

However, I'm going to finish my studies in USA, so I'm moving to Olympia, Washington State in August this year
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:39 AM
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I'm from France.
I used to live in the area of Paris.
Since 2000, I leave in Grenoble, which is located in the south east, at the bottom of the Alps. The surroundings are nice if you like mountains. I do, that's why I left Paris to go here.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:46 AM
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WELCOME Deusdies and soki!!!!
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