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Old 05-09-2008, 09:54 AM
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Well, statistically speaking, online dating has in general had a very successful option. In fact, I know of many people who have met online, married and now have children. I've been dating online for many, many years with no success and I still haven't given up, but I also think I'm destined to be alone forever too. Anyway, I stopped for a while because I became tired of it and it was at that moment that I met my girlfriend at work. We worked at different departments so it was easy to conceal our relationship, but once it got serious, I decided to quit and found another job because it would have a been a problem later on. However, after three wonderful years we broke up but we're still the best of friends and still hang out like we did when we were together. As a result, I began to date online and had quite a few pleasant experiences, none of them were scary, thank God. But I also have another experience to share with you all.

I met this lady named Lila Styron on a dating site known as engage.com and we have been chatting for a few months on yahoo messenger chat room and we've become friends. She resides in London, England and I live in Florida, USA. We exchanged home addresses as well as mobile numbers. Then she told me that she wanted to visit me in Florida in April. But to accomplish that, she would need to get a hold of her client who works in North Carolina to mail her funds to her, but if she waits for her check to clear in the UK, it will take about 30 days and by that time her vacation would have been over. That's why she wanted to have her client send her check to me in my name and put it into my bank account to hold for her when she meets me in Florida. At the time, I agreed to do this, but I took some precautions to protect myself in the event that this could be a scam by creating an entirely new account. Once I receive it via courier, I was planning to go to the bank and have them examine it to make sure that it is legit before depositing it in my new account. But if the bank said that it is fake, then I will know that this is a scam and I would tell Lila that the deal (and the friendship) is over. During that time, I tried calling her a few times just so I could hear her voice, but all I got was the constant ringing or "sorry, that number is busy, please try again later" speech. Then I tried her old mobile number and a man answered the phone. Here is what transpired:

Man: Hello?

Me: Hi, I would like to speak to Lila please.

Man: Okay, hold on. Hey, there's somebody on the phone!

Then I heard the tv in the background talking about the NASDAQ while a dog was barking, followed by a lady's voice telling the dog to shut up and then she yawned. I waited for 15 minutes and then I hung up in frustration. When I redialed the old mobile number again, I got the same thing:

Man: Hello? Okay, hold on. Hey, there's somebody on the phone!

I heard the tv in the background talking about the NASDAQ while a dog was barking, followed by a lady's voice telling the dog to shut up and then she yawned.

A week ago, I tried Lila's new mobile number again and I was unable to get through yet again. But just a few days ago, I tried her new mobile number one more time and got through and this is what took place:

Man: Hello? Okay, hold on. Hey, there's somebody on the phone!

I heard the tv in the background talking about the NASDAQ while a dog was barking, followed by a lady's voice telling the dog to shut up and then she yawned.

But this time, when I called, I didn't say anything during the call because it was just like I suspected: it was a recorded message! After making this startling discovery, I began to suspect that Lila is not who she says she is. One thing that clued me in was that her email address is: lilastyronn@yahoo.com. If she really wanted to protect her privacy, then why would she list her yahoo email address as her full name? Then she gives a bogus mobile number and that immediately raised a red flag.

Then I had a friend from the UK check out her mobile number and he came to the conclusion that it is not a mobile number or a landline. It is what they call in the UK a "personal number" or virtual number, which can be redirected as often as needed to a landline or mobile phone anywhere in the world (via an online control panel).

Such numbers are normally only used by people who move around a lot (such as businessmen) and who need to be easily contactable via a central number. The drawback is that it is quite expensive to call these numbers, as the caller is effectively paying for the cost of the redirect service.

I have done some research on mobile numbers in the UK and according to this site: http://www.419scam.org/419-phone-uk.htm#phone-uk most mobile numbers that start off as: +44 70xx number usually means you're dealing with criminals based in Nigeria. Her mobile number does indeed start off as +44 70xx, as a matter of fact, here is her full mobile number: +447031966493 and thus, confirming that this is a scam.

Then in our final chat, she told me how much she cared about me and considered me a "special" friend. By "special" she meant to say, "sucker". I told her I knew she was a scam artist and that our friendship was over. Plus, if she tried to contact me again, I told her that I would block her and have her blacklisted.

Now, I'm currently in the process of creating my own newsletter about warning sincere singles out there to be aware of these online scams. In fact, here are several tips for you to know what to look out for online scams:

1. Written all in CAPITALS

2. Bad English grammar

3. You are asked to contact another person or agent or "barrister"

4. Includes fake addresses

5. Name seems odd... first name used as surname, for example

6. Doesn't address you by name (Dear Friend/Winner/whatever)

7. Comes from a person you don't know

8. Involves a somewhat illegal activity (money laundering, smuggling, etc)

9. Asks for personal details (bank account, passport, etc)

10. Uses cellphones or a redirection service

11. Requires an urgent response

12. Requires secrecy

13. Plays on your sympathy (orphans, widows, cancer, natural disasters, etc)

14. Doesn't mention money

15. Offers money for no work (e.g. lottery winnings)

16. Offers money for little work (e.g. check-cashing)

17. Offers to buy something at a ridiculously high price

18. Offers to sell something at a ridiculously low price

19. Received the same email from two different addresses

20. Provides "documents" which have been produced by Photoshop

21. A Google search finds their name associated with a scam

22. Your email address is available on the Web

23. www.scamomatic.com tells you it is a scam

24. www.urgentmessage.org finds their name or phone number

Remember this folks, when something is too good to be true, it is. Please spread the word to all your family and friends so they too are aware of these online scams. Be safe out there and be aware.
Thank you for that for the great warning. Sorry you had to go though all that..
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:46 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say your Jewsih?
Vat gave me avay, mine eccent?
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:55 AM
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Vat gave me avay, mine eccent?
No, but the I am Jewish t-shirt might have...lol.

I have fond memories of dating a nice Jewish lady, long ago.
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:43 PM
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I met my future wife in '98 in a bar, and never had a chance to try computer dating. It sounds fascinating, and I wish I could have had at least one stab at it just to say I did it, but I'm glad I didn't!

I went to my 10 year high school reunion in 2003, and talked with a guy I hadn't seen since graduation. He was married now, and when I asked how he met his wife, he said through a computer dating service. That was my first experience with someone that I knew that it worked for. After that, I swear every other couple has told us when we first meet that they met through on-line dating.

I wonder how this is going to be for my kids? Or, how are they going to view how mom and dad met? Will it seem "old fashioned"?

And thanks for all of those warnings Whitestar. I am trying to pay attention to all of these computer scams and such as I do have young children, and have to worry about the kind of crap that they may be exposed to when they get older...
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:09 PM
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Thank you for that for the great warning. Sorry you had to go though all that..
No problem, Zardoz. And believe me, my experience with these online scams wasn't that bad. I know of people who had it far worse than myself. There was a guy who accepted a fake check, deposited it into his account and ended up owning the bank a ton of money and ended up in debt. I managed to avoid such online scams because I trust my instincts and urge everyone to do the same.

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I met my future wife in '98 in a bar, and never had a chance to try computer dating. It sounds fascinating, and I wish I could have had at least one stab at it just to say I did it, but I'm glad I didn't!

I went to my 10 year high school reunion in 2003, and talked with a guy I hadn't seen since graduation. He was married now, and when I asked how he met his wife, he said through a computer dating service. That was my first experience with someone that I knew that it worked for. After that, I swear every other couple has told us when we first meet that they met through on-line dating.

I wonder how this is going to be for my kids? Or, how are they going to view how mom and dad met? Will it seem "old fashioned"?
You make an interesting point about meeting people at the bar seem old fashioned, Damage. As for online dating, think of it as frozen food dinners! LOL.

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And thanks for all of those warnings Whitestar. I am trying to pay attention to all of these computer scams and such as I do have young children, and have to worry about the kind of crap that they may be exposed to when they get older...
My pleasure. I am sick and tired of decent people (especially kids) being taken advantage of and I'm glad to be of service.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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Wow, after reading all these posts, maybe those commercials are true.

However...part of my mind says, "Is there perhaps a correlation between Trek fans and online dating."

I will commence to flee now.
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