[kevin]

I dunno. I don't think the two scenes are related.

It is hard to tell for sure but although I'm of the feeling the ship RISING out of water is the E, the ship at the end of trailer looks different (but maybe intentionally similar). It has more slender nacelles and to my eyes it is not diving into the water cleanly. It looks like it enters the bay, impacts the basin and then starts to kind of skid across the bay towards the city, throwing up vast surges of water from the saucer.

To me it looks like a ship crashing.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Yeah, that ship is crashing, it's probably the moment when the bad guy does whatever it is that he does to the fleet

[omegaman]

Originally Posted by Southern2356

OK I'm on board with it being Enterprise BUT this is about as ridiculous as Enterprise being built in Iowa. That is until I see it in context. LOL!

In my opinion…nothing ridiculous about where the E was built nor the fact that it could hide underwater… you could just as easily place a submarine in space… could you not?

[omegaman]

In my opinion… the ship/water scenes take place on different worlds.

[horatio]

Originally Posted by omegaman

In my opinion…nothing ridiculous about where the E was built nor the fact that it could hide underwater… you could just as easily place a submarine in space… could you not?

I agree. A starship that id designed to warp space and tolerate extreme atmospheres or space anomalies should be able to deal with liquid surroundings.

[omegaman]

Originally Posted by horatio

I agree. A starship that id designed to warp space and tolerate extreme atmospheres or space anomalies should be able to deal with liquid surroundings.

Exactly.

[omegaman]

Have the theory that Cumby's not the real villain of the piece… I think he's made a temporary alliance with Kirk to defeat the real villain… possibly Weller… Cumby's on Kirk's side until it comes time to exact his vengeance… on Weller… something that Kirk cannot allow him to do… resulting in a showdown between them.

[FireDevlin]

Originally Posted by omegaman

Have the theory that Cumby's not the real villain of the piece… I think he's made a temporary alliance with Kirk to defeat the real villain… possibly Weller… Cumby's on Kirk's side until it comes time to exact his vengeance… on Weller… something that Kirk cannot allow him to do… resulting in a showdown between them.

Interesting theory. With as little as we have seen so far, it really could be anything.....part of the fun I suppose.

[DNA-1842]

Originally Posted by horatio

I agree. A starship that id designed to warp space and tolerate extreme atmospheres or space anomalies should be able to deal with liquid surroundings.

One that was built and assembled on the ground, no less.

So yeah.

[thestartrekker]

Originally Posted by NCC-73515

First one is the Ent rising, but the second one is clearly another class (look at the pylons and nacelles!)

Originally Posted by omegaman

In my opinion… the ship/water scenes take place on different worlds.

I got the feeling the two may not be related. Read somewhere the preview will have a scene with the Enterprise operating in an environment that would have trekkies debating whether or not it could even function there. So I think it is exploring a water planet quite deliberately.

The shot of the ship crashing, I'm not convinced is the Enterprise.
Not saying Picard and co have come back, but the nacelles seem very Enterprise-E -ish (Sovereign class), but mostly obscured by the spray so who knows. So it maybe a different class of vessel.

Originally Posted by omegaman

Have the theory that Cumby's not the real villain of the piece… I think he's made a temporary alliance with Kirk to defeat the real villain… possibly Weller… Cumby's on Kirk's side until it comes time to exact his vengeance… on Weller… something that Kirk cannot allow him to do… resulting in a showdown between them.

I think CB is a bit of misdirection ala Bane. Weller is the real villain in my opinion, and will wait to be proven wrong when I see it in May. I'm not going to repeat all my 'pot stirring' posts here but you know where I'm going on this one.