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Old 11-24-2012, 01:02 PM
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I finally saw it. I liked it.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:27 AM
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Haha yeah I put those two together. Stuart is an editor first and a director second. He also edited Daniel Craig's first outing as Bond in Casino Royale. As for Logan, I have to give him more credit than he has gotten. He is an avid fan of Star Trek and the person to blame for messing it up would have to be Baird, who had never see an episode of TNG in his life. And it really showed...So, yeah it's nice to see that Logan has redeemed his reputation continuing as a writer while Baird has not directed any films. To Baird's credit however, he's a great editor.
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I personally enjoyed Baird's directorial style for Nemesis, because it finally felt like a big screen movie for TNG. As I've always said, it takes a big screen director to make a movie for the big screen....all the action in the previous TNG films had filled up a 4:3 aspect TV screen quite nicely, but just didn't sit well with me on the big screen.

John Logan, whose work I admired for Gladiator, I thought did a nice job with the writing for Nemesis, but, there were some things that showed him to be more of a fan-boy writing a story, rather than a fan of Trek trying to make a professional Trek movie. (The whole thing with the Ent-E apparently having grown 5 more decks in in its belly?....that does kinda smack of Star Trek V where somehow, the Ent-A seemed to magically have some 70 decks...?....!..)

Ah..well...Nemesis is still my fave of the TNG films, even for all its Sovereign class flaws.

And I think I might treat myself to a day out at the movies tomorrow, to catch the premiere of Red Dawn, and to go see Skyfall.
I too think John Logan was too much of a fan of ST to write for it. There was a hilarious annotated version of the Nemesis script floating around at the time of the movie's release, which (among other things) snarkingly highlighted instances of dialogue that seemed to have been processed through the Berman staff's editing filter. It portrays Logan as being very gullible and starry-eyed to be working with the ST team of that time. I also didn't like The Time Machine which he adapted. He may be too much a fan of sci-fi in general.

Stuart Baird, I can't say I think much of him as a director either. His ST is the most distant film of the series since TMP. He lacks a humanizing touch to getting good material out of his actors. His preferences with lighting, interiors and composition are questionable and didn't render very much that was pleasing to look at in the film. The only thing I find necessarily 'larger' in scale from the prior films are the exterior shots, which I suspect may largely be an issue of quantity. All of the First Ten STs including TMP have seemed rather limited in scope, and for reasons that are largely variable and varied (specific for each individual film).

I would say both of their work on Bond though has been exceptional. I need to see it again.

Red Dawn I have never seen in either version. Like a lot of '80s style 'invasion USA' type movies, I suspect it's just not my thing.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:55 AM
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I plan on seeing Skyfall again as well.
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I can't get the intro outta my head... let the skyfoooouuuuu when it crumbooouuuuu XD
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Yeah, Adele's theme is pretty spot on for a Bond song.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:37 AM
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It was nice song. I heard it playing from an adjacent auditorium on my way into Life of Pi... made me almost want to ditch and just see Skyfall again. But I figured I would have already missed the first ten minutes. And anyway, I had paid for Pi whereas I still have plenty more free passes to Skyfall (BestBuy Blu-Ray deal on all Bond movies).

BTW, Pi turned out to be perhaps the best film I've seen since Hugo.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:41 AM
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I was a bit half and half on 'Hugo'.............but I quite fancy 'Life of Pi'.
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Getting back to John Logan. I just found out that he is set to write the next two James Bond films by himself...I hope he doesn't mess it up. I mean, we all know he was the writer that helped contribute to the death of TNG. Let's hope he is in no way involved becoming the writer involved with the death of 007. But that is just farfetched. I just read this on the Wikipedia page about the James Bond films.

James Bond in film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_in_film

A quote from the page is as follows:

Bond 24 and Bond 25

" Production of the twenty-fourth James Bond film has been confirmed, with a release in cinemas set for "towards the end" of 2014. Daniel Craig has signed up for two more Bond films, and John Logan will be writing both Bond 24 and Bond 25 by himself. "

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Yeah, Adele's theme is pretty spot on for a Bond song.
It is, but the way she slides her notes on the chorus makes me cringe. Sometimes you should just sing the note and not try to do scales. A case where less would have been more.
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It certainly was a good film. I especially love how they have included Bond's old Aston Martin DB5 from Goldfinger. Also including gadgets in this film is really what the series needed. It's nice to see there was a little of everything for fans of the past and future.

Best part was, the gadgets weren't overdone, and didn't interfere with the story.

Best part of the DB5 scene? M complaining about the lack of comfort and Bond threatening to eject her! Priceless!
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