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Old 08-30-2012, 02:11 PM
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I was annoyed when he changed the original Darth Vader character in the final scene of Return of the Jedi. That made no sense to me. Obiwan was show at the age he died, same with Yoda, then we have a young Darth Vader. No sense at all.

Of course I know that it was to try and get some continuity… but it was still a dumb move.

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Old 08-31-2012, 03:49 AM
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It does raise an interesting philosophical question though:

"When did Anakin Skywalker, as a physical entity, really die? Was it when he was left for dead on Mustafar, a broken, living husk of the man he was before? Is that when his maturity as a physical manifestation of the Force ended? Or did he physically die as Anakin Skywalker on the Death Star, smiling proudly in front of Luke?"

As with the Jedi, I suppose the truth we cling to really depends on your point of view.

We, as fans, view this in a couple of ways:

On the one hand, some of us likely see it as an insult to the actor who played the older version of Anakin in RotJ, and who appeared as the ghostly image of Anakin at the end of the original version, replaced by Hayden Christensen in the DVD special editions.

On the other hand, some of us did like the advanced nod it gave to the upcoming "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" since the special edition DVD's were sold just prior to that film's release.

As an analysis of the mysteries of The Force:

Some of us may view that Anakin Skywalker truly died as a physical entity in The Force back on Mustafar. That was where any further physical maturity/aging ended. He was no longer a being of light, and ceased to be shortly before that fateful duel on the volcanic moon. When he was redeemed to the Force after killing the Emperor to save his son, he was restored, in the Force, to the beautiful young being he was just before he caved to the Dark Side.

For others of us, Anakin Skywalker, the man who became Darth Vader, still had good in him and thus never really truly died in the Force. There was some threadbare lifeline that kept him clinging to the light, and that, despite his broken nature when he redeemed himself to the Force, as if there were those who had passed before (perhaps Qui-Gon, Yoda, and even Obi-Wan, despite his assessment that Vader was more machine than man, twisted and evil) still held onto that hope that Anakin would rise and crush the Dark Lord that nearly subsumed his soul. That threadbare lifeline allowed him to reemerge as the ghostly visage of the aged father that Luke saw at the end of RotJ.

When Obi-Wan and Yoda passed on, they were still beings of the light, and thus were likely preserved in their aged natures at the time of their passing.

As a personal speculation, when one shuffles of the mortal coil, and becomes one with the light side of the Force, one's eyes are opened to things that are not revealed even to the highest masters of the Living Force. Qui-Gon, for all his power in the land of the living, was among the first to learn how to commune with the living from the netherworld of the Force. He instructed his own master, Yoda, how to do the same, who in turn, taught Obi-Wan. When the three of them were united in the nether, Qui-Gon likely showed them many things they were completely unaware life and its webs really work, especially in the ministrations of the Force. Even Yoda, for his near millennium of knowledge and skill and mastery of the Living Force, admitted his limitations. How little did he really know of the true nature of the Force until he crossed over into the union of the passed.

Again, just some speculation from yours truly.

Martok2112 (far from a Master of the Force)

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