[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Saquist

It could do without both.
But then there is a money issue.

Shoot, they could do it like the Borne Saga.

We'll call it "Saq Trek."

[The Saint]

[quote=A couple years ago...]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Well, it's been done -- I don't recall whether it's been done in Star Trek, but...

They wake up amnesiac in San Francisco circa 1941. Sulu is seized and taken to an internment camp for Japanese-Americans. Kirk and McCoy are both beat cops. No sign of Spock. Chekov is a foreign correspondent for a Moscow paper, part of an exchange program that had foreign correspondent Walter Duranty in Moscow, but Chekov is Duranty's counterpart over here. Uhura is assigned by the San Francisco Chronicle to be Chekov's translator. At a public launch of a new Naval battleship that Montgomery Scott worked on as part of the U.S./U/K. lend-lease program, with Kirk and McCoy keeping the crowd under control and while Chekov and Uhura are on scene for the paper, a Starfleet shuttlecraft buzzes the ship and the crowd, piloted by Spock. Our Starfleet crew's memories are triggered by the sight of the shuttle but they don't regain them fully. The story kicks into gear with them trying to puzzle out who they are, what they have in common and the meaning of the impossible aircraft they saw -- to figure it out, they go looking for Spock and then have to free Sulu all the while trying to figure out how to get home.

Well, that's lovely. Isn't that lovely, children? The guy asks for a story idea, he gets a story idea, but [i]because the story idea beings Trek Lite closer to real Star Trek, he doesn't like it.

[I-Am-Zim]

Nice to see ya again Saint!

[omegaman]

The return of the Saint! What's that music I hear in the background…

[FireDevlin]

Holy crap . . .the Saint is back!

[kevin]

Does this set a new record for the oldest thread most redundantly resurrected, I wonder.

[Futureguy]

From an original post from...(The Saint?)
"Kirk and McCoy are both beat cops."
Shatner was a beat cop in San-Francisco...T.J. Hooker.
I always wished that they had Kirk meet Hooker, (just in passing), in San-Francisco in ST IV. Would've been hilarious and could have been a source of dramedy if "Hooker" had been taken aboard the Klingon craft by mistake. But then, the whole story would have needed rewriting and ruined a great movie as we know it.

[Akula2ssn]

I think it can probably be done with the older fans. And by older I don't necessarily mean age but people who have been fans of Star Trek long before XI. However if you're trying to bring in new fans with a particular movie such as XI, then you kind of have to have the Enterprise. Even people who were not fans of Star Trek know the Enterprise, what she is, and what she looks like. Also even if they haven't seen any of the shows or movies they're likely going to expect to see the Enterprise if they go to a movie. Whether you like the new ship or not, you kind of have to give Abrams credit. He didn't do what a lot of other directors tend to do with remakes which is completely change the ship *cough* Lost in Space *cough*. Despite the cosmetic changes, the new ship still looks like the Enterprise. The shape is still there and it's one that is widely recognized whether you were a fan in the first place or not, whereas the Jupiter 2, the original is not as widely recognized. In fact if you show a picture of the old Jupiter 2 to most people without any kind of caption chances are people who never followed the show would think UFO.

[omegaman]

The Enterprise has to be there in some way always…

[kevin]

TVH proved it could be done for the most part, but broadly I'd be surprised if anyone attempted it nowadays.