[jla1987]

Originally Posted by kevin

I tend to feel that ToD is - for some reason - more a collection of set pieces that don't really have a very strong story holding them together. I like the set pieces (the Shanghai opening, the plane escape, the mine car etc) but overall the film just lacks focus.

Crystal Skull is a little similar, whereas Ark and Crusade seem to have a clearer story - find the Ark, find the Holy Grail - and work better as films.

I still prefer Skull to Doom however for some reason. Maybe it's because I like the 1950s 'B' movie nods it's filled with a little better.

I prefer Skull to Doom as well, but it's not by much. I also agree with the clearer story. One big issue though is the throwaway characters in Doom and Skull. I mean, Short Round and Capshaw are nuisances. Blanchett and LeBouf (even John Hurt and Karen Allen) portray forgettable characters. That takes away from those movies IMO.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by jla1987

I prefer Skull to Doom as well, but it's not by much. I also agree with the clearer story. One big issue though is the throwaway characters in Doom and Skull. I mean, Short Round and Capshaw are nuisances. Blanchett and LeBouf (even John Hurt and Karen Allen) portray forgettable characters. That takes away from those movies IMO.

I don't find (personally) Paul Freeman as Belloq or whomever played the businessman in Crusade any more memorable I have to say. Their respective demises, yep! But themselves thay are about as unmemorable to me as any of them. Though I have always quite enjoyed Capshaw - I found her amusing and I like Karen Allen as well.

The strength of Indiana Jones has really always been Ford. It all revolves around him anyway.

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Maybe I'm alone on this, but I liked Shortround.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by kevin

I don't find (personally) Paul Freeman as Belloq or whomever played the businessman in Crusade any more memorable I have to say. Their respective demises, yep! But themselves thay are about as unmemorable to me as any of them. Though I have always quite enjoyed Capshaw - I found her amusing and I like Karen Allen as well.

The strength of Indiana Jones has really always been Ford. It all revolves around him anyway.

I like Karen Allen. I just didn't think she added anything to Crystal Skull. Capshaw was just annoying to me.

[SouthernSpockette]

I'm at a crossroads between Raiders and Crusade. They were both the best of the 4, to be sure.

[martok2112]

Shortround was funny in ToD.

I think some folks also didn't quite like ToD because, unlike the other Indy movies, there wasn't as much globetrotting. It stayed confined to about two locales (China and India) whereas the other films I think had at least three or four locales to sport.

[kevin]

Maybe. It's not that in my case, but maybe for some it would have something to do with it.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by martok2112

I think some folks also didn't quite like ToD because, unlike the other Indy movies, there wasn't as much globetrotting. It stayed confined to about two locales (China and India) whereas the other films I think had at least three or four locales to sport.

That may have very little to do with it...

It's still just too silly of a movie for me.

[Quark]

Originally Posted by Cabo 5150

I don't hate it at all; and in fact rate it thus:

1. Temple Of Doom
2. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
3. Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
4. Last Crusade

Ouch, you really must have hated Last Crusade.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by Quark

Ouch, you really must have hated Last Crusade.

I don't see how anyone could hate that one...