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Old 03-21-2008, 11:36 AM
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I gotta admit never had Waffle House coffee...good hash browns though!
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:22 PM
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Ordering coffee in the U.S. is like asking a british cook for his most recommended meal - suicide in portions.
There are some Starbucks here in Berlin since a few years and the only people who go there are american tourists and teenagers.

As a german I am grateful to all the things the U.S. brought us over here (Rock'n'Roll, Democracy and Batman, just to name a few things). But american coffee? Thats like selling german fashion in Itally or turkish wine in France.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:45 PM
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lol, Batman?
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:54 PM
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Ordering coffee in the U.S. is like asking a british cook for his most recommended meal - suicide in portions.
There are some Starbucks here in Berlin since a few years and the only people who go there are american tourists and teenagers.

As a german I am grateful to all the things the U.S. brought us over here (Rock'n'Roll, Democracy and Batman, just to name a few things). But american coffee? Thats like selling german fashion in Itally or turkish wine in France.
Same for Australia. There are a couple of starbucks style coffee shops but it's generaly accepted that they are for the undiscerning.

Coffee or cake as per the rest of the free world does not seem to be available in the U.S
I think though it is more for the business model. For example the rest of us would not even consider sitting down to a coffee in a paper cup but consider amongst the thousands of stores starbucks have the amount of cups that are not been washed.

That is a lot of money in wages that does not have to be paid to have someone wash up.

So the wages go to the minimal amount of work to get the coffee over the counter and money in the till. Very smart business if the market buy it but lower culture. What they have done is cover that up somewhat with great packaging and very cool store design.

I respect starbucks business wise but thank God for great coffee... and batman.

You will also notice that any time Americans talk of food the subject centres upon a franchise. That is their culture. Not saying that is wrong but when the rest of the world thinks of quality food a franchise does not come to mind.

For example here or anywhere in Europe you can get pizza that is nothing short of outstanding but an American tourist would wonder where all the pizza outlets were. The mindset goes to franchise and branding.

That's not a negative but an interesting difference in our cultures given that so much (of our culture) is the same.

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Old 03-21-2008, 06:35 PM
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Waffle House is bad too

Coffee may be bad, but Waffle House makes some wicked good breakfast platters.
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Sanka... bleah
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:34 PM
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your mom=worst coffee maka
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:02 AM
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I think though it is more for the business model. For example the rest of us would not even consider sitting down to a coffee in a paper cup but consider amongst the thousands of stores starbucks have the amount of cups that are not been washed.

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You will also notice that any time Americans talk of food the subject centres upon a franchise. That is their culture. Not saying that is wrong but when the rest of the world thinks of quality food a franchise does not come to mind.
Good observation. Here in Görmony Coffee to Go had a hard time to get accepted and still has the image of being something for wanna-be business man, who pretend to be hard working people but leave the impression of just being to lazy, to tasteless and to chaotic to take a seat and enjoy real coffee in a real cup with some real cookies. Damn, thats what coffee is supposed to be. Imagine a Wine to Go! Barbary. Or Whiskey in a paper cup!
The paper cup is the main reason american coffee tastes so horrible. Its the paper you taste. I am not kidding. Thats why one has to rape the coffee with caramel or spices, to overtone the paper taste.

However, Coffee to Go became a thing for students, especially here in Berlin. We have three universities and aproximatly a dozen libaries spread all over the town. Students often rush from one place to another. Now Coffee to Go is something for the poor exploited students.

And dont get me started on the franchise issue. This is really one of the cultural specials that perhaps only the U.S. have.
Again, good observation.

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Old 03-22-2008, 10:16 AM
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Sanka... bleah
Isn't that instant coffee?
lol, it's the Kool-Aid of Coffee.
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:44 PM
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your mom=worst coffee maka
You know, my mom does make a pretty poor cup. A little too strong, and only that damned fat free blueish milk to add!
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