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Old 02-23-2010, 11:49 PM
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This is sounding like an Antonin Scalia view of the "Founders' Original Intent" of our Constitiution, which incidentally is bull hockey because he annoints only himself as qualified to interpret that original intent - and corrupt that view into "citizenship for corporations", "patenting soybean seeds for agribusiness" and a host of other things that the Founders could never have had any view on.

Somehow there needs to be a caretaker of the vision as time rolls on. We cannot be constantly trying to figure out "What would Roddenberry do?"

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It would also be a rather flawed view for a Trekkie to take as Roddenberry declared things non-canon on a whim apparently (which would possibly mean disregarding their favorite episodes, etc,) plus he hasn't been alive for 20 years to declare anything after that canon or not canon. As his assistant put it, he had very revisionist thinking.

I believe canon is what the property owners deem as canon (or official) technically, which is what most fans interpret it. In other words, what appears on screen is canon. Though some fans have slightly varied interpretations, even as far as including the fan films as canon.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:25 AM
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Not really.
Deal with it.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:44 AM
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Well dangit. It was meant to be.

Edit: Okay, let me rephrase: "And my personal opinion is that this "new" Trek makes Roddenberry and every single person who ever assisted him or gave him any ideas at all look like the greatest creative geniuses ever to exist in the history of the universe by comparison."

Is that better?
Well if you take out Bob Justman (who apparently indicated liking several elements of the film and he wasn't exactly the tea-maker on TOS, let's face it) it's a little clearer, yes.

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Old 02-24-2010, 09:51 AM
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It falls under canon through Spock Prime, but yes it also falls under alternate universe as well.
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Old 02-24-2010, 11:42 AM
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It falls under canon through Spock Prime, but yes it also falls under alternate universe as well.
As of Stardate 2233.04, it is an Alternate Reality. All events seen before that are the same.
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For all intent and purpose, this film definitely fits into the Star Trek lexicon. I'll be looking forward to see how the next one plays out.
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