[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by kevin

I think everyone even behind the scenes acknowledges Threshold as a nadir -

Off Memory Alpha

• Some Paramount staff, including Rick Sternbach and Brannon Braga, discount the events of "Threshold", due to its severe scientific flaws. In an interview included as an "easter egg" on the VOY Season 2 DVD release, Braga admits it was the single worst episode he has ever written, stating:

"I wrote the episode, or at least the teleplay. It's a terrible episode. People are very unforgiving about that episode. I've written well over a hundred episodes of Star Trek, yet it seems to be the only episode anyone brings up, you know? "Brannon Braga, who wrote Threshold!" Out of a hundred and some episodes, you're gonna have some stinkers! Unfortunately, that was a royal, steaming stinker. And... it had some good intentions behind it. It had a good premise, breaking the warp 10 barrier. I don't know where this whole "de-evolving into a lizard" thing came from. I may have blocked it out. I think I was trying to make a statement about evolution not necessarily being evolving toward higher organisms, that evolution may also be a de-evolution. You know, we kind of take it for granted that evolution means bigger brains, more technology, you know, more refined civilization. When in fact, for all we know, we're evolving back toward a more primordial state. Ultimately, who can predict? Unfortunately, none of this came across in the episode. And all we were left with were some lizard... things crawling around in the mud. So. It was not my shining moment."


(of course, a less forgiving fan could point out Braga has written more than that episode which are not shining moments......but that's for another day!)

Threshold is VOY's "Spock's Brain."

[celticarchie]

Endgame was crap...worse than any on that list.

[janeway72]

I was a bit disappointed with Endgame too. Though the two novels by Christie Golden - "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" tied it all up nicely

[kevin]

Originally Posted by celticarchie

Endgame was crap...worse than any on that list.

It should have been a contender at least.

[horatio]

They could have crippled the ship and stranded the crew on a planet in the last season. Fast forward a few decades and start there with a next series, from Lost in Space to Robinson Crusoe.

[celticarchie]

Originally Posted by horatio

They could have crippled the ship and stranded the crew on a planet in the last season. Fast forward a few decades and start there with a next series, from Lost in Space to Robinson Crusoe.

Top notch thinking!

Really the only problem I had with Voyager was that it started with such potential...and never quite achieved it. It was good for a bit, then it'd go back down, pick up again, then down again.

I think I may have said this before, but by the time we get to Enterprise's Season Three* and I was like screaming at the screen - "You should have been doing season arcs from Season 1 Voyager!" Hell, I was kinda screaming for story arcs in TNG.

(*the season long arc, something Star Trek has never done before according to Brannon Braga...can anyone say Deep Space Nine, ahem!)

[celticarchie]

Laugh if you like.

But I kinda like Threshold. I don't quite get peoples/Braga's dislike of it.

Maybe he don't like it because it rips-off bits of an Outer Limits episode that aired around the same time.

A really good Outer Limits episode too.