The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum > Star Trek > Off Topic Discussions > My rant about Art and Artists
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-28-2009, 01:45 PM
Ditroi's Avatar
Ditroi Ditroi is offline
Commander
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,035
Default

It was also in Kindergarten when I learned to doubt some of the wisdom of the education system... we had coloring time. Teacher passed out line drawings of fruit for us to color. I was preparing to color the grapes. There are only 8 colors in the crayon box. In my household we ate green and reddish grapes. At that point in my life I hadn't seen or eaten purple grapes. I preferred the green ones, they were sweeter. So I picked the one green crayon provided in the box. I colored the grapes green. The teacher said I was wrong and I don't recall if she docked me a point or not. My reality didn't match the dogma. LOL. I was a rebel ever since.
__________________
All artists are obssesive compulsive... its what keeps us going!
The science inspires the dream, the dream creates the art...the art fuels the dream and continues to inspire the science!


http://www.dianahuang.com
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-28-2009, 01:47 PM
horatio's Avatar
horatio horatio is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 9,282
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditroi View Post
I found out I liked playing with colors, lines and shapes since what... kindergarten because there was nothing else to do during the free hour. I gravitated to the paint easel where I made red and green blotches on a brown line. Apples on a fence. My first painting... teacher said I was talented.
I guess I did, but just on the usual kids level. You did enjoy it more, you had skills and that's why you are an artist today. In between a lot of hard but hopefully also enjoyable work.

Of course you can become good at something by studying and training off your a*s, but you won't enjoy it unless you have some skills and/or interest in the area.
I am pretty bad at learning languages but when I was about 16 or so, something drove me to learn more than just school-level English by reading books with a dictionary and index cards. So interest can partly substitute talent, but without either you don't make it very far.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditroi View Post
It was also in Kindergarten when I learned to doubt some of the wisdom of the education system... we had coloring time. Teacher passed out line drawings of fruit for us to color. I was preparing to color the grapes. There are only 8 colors in the crayon box. In my household we ate green and reddish grapes. At that point in my life I hadn't seen or eaten purple grapes. I preferred the green ones, they were sweeter. So I picked the one green crayon provided in the box. I colored the grapes green. The teacher said I was wrong and I don't recall if she docked me a point or not. My reality didn't match the dogma. LOL. I was a rebel ever since.
Typical, a decent teacher should try to encourage his or her students and sparkle excitement. If children cannot be excited for the wonders of the world, who else can?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-28-2009, 02:02 PM
Ditroi's Avatar
Ditroi Ditroi is offline
Commander
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,035
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by horatio View Post
Typical, a decent teacher should try to encourage his or her students and sparkle excitement. If children cannot be excited for the wonders of the world, who else can?
And that's a big problem... depending on the kid... it makes or breaks them. I hear it all the time:

"I used to draw(or play the piano or dance or sports)"
"why did you stop?"
"Cause people said I wasn't good."

I was just darn lucky I got nice people telling me I was good from the start otherwise I would have quit. Mom tells me I stalled and gave up in the first grade. I didn't touch some art project given to me so my mom did it... I don't remember that. But it started back up in 2nd grade and the praise came again and I kept going from there to an obsessive degree. All kids crave positive attention.
__________________
All artists are obssesive compulsive... its what keeps us going!
The science inspires the dream, the dream creates the art...the art fuels the dream and continues to inspire the science!


http://www.dianahuang.com
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:41 AM.


Forum theme courtesy of Mark Lambert
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.