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Old 06-16-2009, 08:48 PM
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I thought the kid who playecWill was WAY too cutsie, and Willaim Hurt allways sounded like he nothing but distain for playing John Robinson.
Hurt seemed very disinterested to the point of barely putting any emotion into the lines. I thought Matt LeBlanc did a pretty good job- cocky and insecure. The guy who played Smith- his name escapes me and I"m too lazy to look it up- was the best of all.

Still, we must take what we can, sometimes, and make the best of it.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:54 AM
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Hurt seemed very disinterested to the point of barely putting any emotion into the lines. I thought Matt LeBlanc did a pretty good job- cocky and insecure. The guy who played Smith- his name escapes me and I"m too lazy to look it up- was the best of all.

Still, we must take what we can, sometimes, and make the best of it.
Gary Oldman played Smith, he tried to make the role work, but it was poorly written for him.

LeBlanc could have really done soemthing with West, but was riding too high off his "Freinds" fame at the time, and it shows.

Yeah Hurt just acts like the role is totally benath him onscreeen.

On the other hand, Mimi Rodgers and Heather Graham try to deliver good perfromances.

But the voice of the robot is sadly the best actor in the film...lol..
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:17 AM
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Hurt seemed very disinterested to the point of barely putting any emotion into the lines. I thought Matt LeBlanc did a pretty good job- cocky and insecure. The guy who played Smith- his name escapes me and I"m too lazy to look it up- was the best of all.

Still, we must take what we can, sometimes, and make the best of it.

No, that's just William Hurts acting style... LOL.

I was watching "The Derilect" the other night, and realized what the interrior of the alien ship actually was... it was the "brain" set from Fantastic Voyage! How cool is that? It definitely gave the episode a Richard Powers bookcover vibe...
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:29 AM
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The story behind the show is kind of interesting. According to Shatner in Star Trek Memories, Lost in Space (LIS) was CBS's attempt to do Star Trek without Roddenberry. That is, Roddenberry initially pitched his idea for Trek to CBS before going to NBC. CBS took his ideas, thanked him, politely escorted him out the door, thanked him again, and then said they'd be in touch. They never got back to him, but later ended up producing LIS. Roddenberry was convinced CBS had used him as an unpaid creative consultant and that the basis for LIS was his pitch for Star Trek.
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Highly unlikely. According to the stories Gene told at a couple of conventions, CBS had already green lit LIS. They just let Gene spill the beans on his series, so that they would be able to snag any useful ideas.... but, watching LIS, do you really think they used any ideas from Trek? Any at all? Because I don't see a resemblance at all! Hell, they couldn't even get the science right in the first five minutes of "Reluctant Stowaway."

The Jupiter II travels near the speed of light, but the family and crew have to be put into suspended animation for the four years it would take them to reach their target? But then later in that same episode, the ship goes into "hyperdrive?"

Would anyone else like to point out the contradictions here?

Trek was at least consistent.
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:27 AM
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I agree Lost in Space and Star Trek are very different shows, no apparent resemblance. Maybe it was as you say, they were only using Roddenberry indirectly as a sounding board and maybe LIS was already greenlit before Roddenberry pitched his idea, which is why they wouldn't go for Trek. I'm just reporting what i read. Thanks.
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The story behind the show is kind of interesting. According to Shatner in Star Trek Memories, Lost in Space (LIS) was CBS's attempt to do Star Trek without Roddenberry. That is, Roddenberry initially pitched his idea for Trek to CBS before going to NBC. CBS took his ideas, thanked him, politely escorted him out the door, thanked him again, and then said they'd be in touch. They never got back to him, but later ended up producing LIS. Roddenberry was convinced CBS had used him as an unpaid creative consultant and that the basis for LIS was his pitch for Star Trek.
Keep in mind reading Shatner's Trek Memories books, that his view on things can be pretty one sided. As Fan allready said, GR debunked this while he was alive. Why Shatner used an old fable.

GR stole most of his Trek ideas from Forbidden Planet (1954).
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Hmmm...could be..I did thin Robot was cool, except for the stupid design flaw that put his battery back where everybody could yank it out.
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I gotta get me one of those! Are they working models? Pricey I bet!

My brother had a bunch of toys that were sold during the first run of the series. I was a few years older, but I think that I had more fun with them than he did.

Was Star Trek not merchandised as well? I do not remember seeing toys/props from TOS or I would have begged my parents to get me some.

As much as I even liked Star Wars though I never felt compeled to get any collectables. :-( I was too grown up I guess. They would have been worth a lot by now.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:28 PM
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Keep in mind reading Shatner's Trek Memories books, that his view on things can be pretty one sided. As Fan allready said, GR debunked this while he was alive. Why Shatner used an old fable.

GR stole most of his Trek ideas from Forbidden Planet (1954).
That move rocked! Even before I saw TOS, I had watched that movie a couple of times on late-night movies. Which were at the time over by 1-1:30am, at which time ALL stations were off for the night. Remember the "Test Patterns" that came on before the morning sign-on?

Anyway, watching TOS always reminded me of that movie in a way that many years later that I saw it again and made the connection.
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Speaking of The Day the Earth Stood Still, I am watching the 2 parter episode "The Keeper" where Michael Reenie (Kato) is the keeper. It has giant animals in it. Allen was always intriqued by Giants and things.
In my opinion, cold war overtones of the times aside, that movie was fairly cerebral with a minimum of whiz-bang effects other than when Gort vaporizes much of the local military. However, those parts were done very well for the time and set up a believeable menace to the movie viewer without being corny. Other than the "Robot" from "LIS" or "Forbidden Planet", I wish there were replecas. He/it was one tough dude.
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