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Old 06-12-2009, 03:58 AM
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Judy Dench was great as M! However she should not have been in the prequel/reboot. The original M was a man - she even alludes to him being her predecessor in Goldeneye and yet now she is his predecessor and she promoted Bond... Plus the progession of the character from a 'bean-counter' to a much more savvy M is taking place in reverse. Nerds can't cope with such discontinuity!

Patrick is right though. If all film-makers are chasing commercial success above all else too many films will focus on a set formula of action, effects, love interests, and stereotypes instead of telling a good story. I'm so sick of irritating, arrogant, incredibly stupid American teenagers that I'm usually rooting for the serial killers and monsters. Much of the variety in film-making will be lost. Let the Right One In gets universally astoundingly good reviews and yet, as a low budget Swedish film, it isn't on at any of my local cinemas!
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:30 AM
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Judy Dench was great as M! However she should not have been in the prequel/reboot. The original M was a man - she even alludes to him being her predecessor in Goldeneye and yet now she is his predecessor and she promoted Bond... Plus the progession of the character from a 'bean-counter' to a much more savvy M is taking place in reverse. Nerds can't cope with such discontinuity!

Patrick is right though. If all film-makers are chasing commercial success above all else too many films will focus on a set formula of action, effects, love interests, and stereotypes instead of telling a good story. I'm so sick of irritating, arrogant, incredibly stupid American teenagers that I'm usually rooting for the serial killers and monsters. Much of the variety in film-making will be lost. Let the Right One In gets universally astoundingly good reviews and yet, as a low budget Swedish film, it isn't on at any of my local cinemas!
Casino Royale was a total restart of the Bond series, so Judy as M was ok by me.

Sadly studios are there to make money, not to make people happy.
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And if he wanted to be in blockbusters, he wouldn't have decided to leave California, relocate to Britain and go back to the theatre he started from.
he was never asked to be in blockbusters though was he.

he got the gig on X-Men because "looked like" Professor X, pure and simple.

both he and Spiner took amounts out of the TREK for they're own pocket.
actors care mainly about the money, like the rest of us.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:21 PM
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he was never asked to be in blockbusters though was he.

he got the gig on X-Men because "looked like" Professor X, pure and simple.

both he and Spiner took amounts out of the TREK for they're own pocket.
actors care mainly about the money, like the rest of us.
He could have refused the X-Men gig if he wanted to - so something attracted him.

I doubt it was the paycheck - Star Trek would be his cash cow if the $12 million Nemesis salary is to be believed. X-Men would be unlikely to pay him that much if it was only money he wanted.

Certainly actors will work for food - most of them are not successful enough to warrant turning down a paycheck, and indeed, sometimes if they are established they'll take a gig purely to buy a new car or house, (which would explain some of Samuel L. Jackson's CV entries).

So what? I'm only interested in the performance they put onscreen anyway.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:38 PM
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So what? I'm only interested in the performance they put onscreen anyway.
agreed, but my point is some "thespians" are put up on a pedastal and declared awesome by all and sundry when in fact they are just "hungers" - a word from my swchool days.

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say, but I'm just not saying it very well.
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He could have refused the X-Men gig if he wanted to - so something attracted him.

I doubt it was the paycheck - Star Trek would be his cash cow if the $12 million Nemesis salary is to be believed. X-Men would be unlikely to pay him that much if it was only money he wanted.
was anything in Nemisis worth 12 million.
plus the X-Men sequels were non-events so I think everyone was only after the money.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:47 PM
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agreed, but my point is some "thespians" are put up on a pedastal and declared awesome by all and sundry when in fact they are just "hungers" - a word from my swchool days.

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say, but I'm just not saying it very well.
Well, some of them remain better at doing the job they are paid to do than others, and have a better grasp of how to act. I don't even think Judi Dench would disagree with you.

It's not her who pute herself on a pedestal - it's others watching her who do.
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