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Old 06-11-2009, 08:11 AM
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I think his sour grapes are directed at Harry Potter.
he is just about the only Brit not in any of those.

a household name he may be, but I've never seen him in a truely great role.
he is kind of like Anthony Hopkins and Judi Dench - no big deal really.
I could have seen Patrick as Dumbledore, especially in make up and a wig.

Patrick was really good in Excalibur, even though his part was small.

Until "Silence" Hopkins was a hard working charater actor, as well as Dame Dench until she played M in the Bond films.
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Old 06-11-2009, 08:42 AM
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Hopkins and Dench play the same type of character all the time - I don't get why they are rate so highly. Dench is a stain in the new Craig/Bond movies.
Tom Wilkinson would have been great as M.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:24 AM
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"Yesterday, I took my grandchildren to see the new Star Trek movie. There were three movie trailers, one for the new Terminator movie, one for the new Harry Potter and one for a Pixar animated movie. All the trailers sounded and looked the same. Full of standardised levels of noise, violence and special effects and I thought, 'My God, nothing would attract me to any of these'.
Well, he was on the money with T4, and the Harry Potter's are locked into a standard visual and storytelling style by now.

The only exception may be Up.

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Sounds like sour grapes. As much as I love Patrick as an actor, he's gotten pretty angry towards Trek in the last several years. You would think he'd be more greatful considering it made him a household name after being a charater actor since the late 1960's
He wasn't being sour about Star Trek - he was talking about those other films.

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NCC, Patrick wouldn't have said that if Nemesis had been a hit...
As I understand it was intended to be the last anyway, so I'm not sure it being a hit would have made a difference.

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But, outside of an X Men movie can you name a film he was in that made big box office in the last 10 years?
Can you name any Star Trek actor who has though?

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I have seen Hopkins as Hannibal Lector, Richard Nixon, Butler (in Remains of the Day) and some Shakespeare charactors. Seems pretty diversified.
Classically trained, diverse CV, there's not many major roles he hasn't played.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:35 AM
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Can you name any Star Trek actor who has though?
as I've said here on the forum before, Colm Meaney is the only actor with a respectable filmography outside of TREK.
even his new commerical for Halifax is great.

BTW, any of my countrymen seen that ad yet?
the cute red head is very familiar.
anyone know where I might have seen her before?

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Old 06-11-2009, 09:37 AM
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But, outside of an X Men movie can you name a film he was in that made big box office in the last 10 years?
I bet for Stewart playing Macbeth is a bigger honor than being in a big hollywood blockbuster.
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I bet for Stewart playing Macbeth is a bigger honor than being in a big hollywood blockbuster.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:57 AM
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seriously cute red head

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Hopkins and Dench play the same type of character all the time - I don't get why they are rate so highly. Dench is a stain in the new Craig/Bond movies.
Tom Wilkinson would have been great as M.
I really think you should look up their other films, you might find you've been missing out.

I feel Dench is the best M since Lee during the Connery years. She brought a freshness to a pretty streight role.

As it has allready been said, Hopkins has played so many kinds of charaters it's astounding.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:55 AM
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I really think you should look up their other films, you might find you've been missing out.

I feel Dench is the best M since Lee during the Connery years. She brought a freshness to a pretty streight role.

As it has allready been said, Hopkins has played so many kinds of charaters it's astounding.
Zardoz, I would not have said what I did if I was unfamiliar with their other movies. though having spent a lot of time on this forum I do not blame for thinking the opposite. it seems to be the norm here.

Dench is a dreadful actress.
Hopkins first time out as Lecktor was good, but not as good as Brian Cox in Manhunter. his other two outings were tripe (though I don't blame him entirely - a great villain is hard to come by). nothing else stands out except REMAINS OF THE DAY but everybody was great in that. we can put that down to a terrific story and great writing seeing as even Hugh Grant couldn't muck it up.

no Hopkins, Dench and Stewart are over rated. there are far better actors out there.
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